Hibernia is Dying?

Where are the excalibur and prydwen servers?

Seems to me he might not even be playing the same game.

- What's that sound in the street, John ?
- Hibernian protest, sir.
- Hibernian protest ? Dont they have good tanks - heros and champions ?
- They do, sir.
- Dont they have good mages - enchanters ?
- They do, sir.
- Dont they have excellent healers - druids ?
- They do, sir.
- Dont they have pbt tanks and aoe mezz with mach5 ?
- They do, sir.
- So what are they complaining about, John ?
- Hibs, sir !


PS. Excalibur and Prydwen are euro servers. Current patch - 1.57.

Wait so which is it? .. Hibernia has the least pop so they get the most RP's (the excuse a few patches ago), or Hibernia has the least RP's because they have the least pop (when in fact, on average, they have nearly the same pop as mid).

Could you make up your minds?

"dont i love people who dont know how to play their classes and which group layout with proper realm abilities is needed for securing victory in almost any ecounter. Proper hib group > 2 fg mids and >> 3 fg albs."

heh, you're pretty damn stupid aren't you. Sounds like the players on your server need to learn to fight since on pretty much every other server 1 hib group = 1 alb group and 1 mid group >>> 1 hib/alb group.

As far getting killed by pbaoe at the lords room, that's pathetic. If you haven't figured out how to deal with that then you need to go back to bg0.

1 alb group == 1 hib group. rofl.

<i wish hibs in this thread stated how exactly they are gimped with logs and screenshots, instead when evidence posted they are dismissing it like :
"Oh well, we killed 6 fgs of albs with our 1 fg too, nothing spectacular here, all albs are st00pid, move along. Hibs are gimps ! hibs are gimps !">

Actually your not getting the reasonable replies because the proof you display is an effect every realm can produce. Mids can do it best, not only highest, fastest damage PBAE but combined with AoE stun. Albs can do it as well as hibs. Mage abilities unique to hib were given to all other realms.

Hibs are classed as the Magical realm but were superior because of effective, low duration cc. All caster damage was nerfed, hib casters were doubly nerfed due to cc nerf. It is a fact that the highest damage type spell between realms is always in either mid or alb, in most cases cannot be found in hib. It was a tradeoff for cc from the beginning of the game. The highest base dd in hib is 209 in the light lines. The light eld doen't even have an AoE spell.... The highest on a Wiz and RM is 219 at higher spec lvl (less resist) and both have an AoE.

And mids actually can do what the best caster class/spec combo in hib can do. For instance, the RM can debuff his own damage type just like the enchanter...

Any PBAE'r who can take down that many people while only having one group means the enemy force is inexperiencd or an allince group filled with mostly lowbies. PBAE, even with MoC, can be stopped by caster stun, melee stun, mez, or...death. And casters die very easy. Casters have a finite mana pool so your albs had to be stacked in nice tight clumps. You say this happened in the open field. I can't even describe how moronic it is for that many people to die to PBAE in the open field...

On the other hand, melee damage levels such as those found on the zerk or savage *cannot* be found in any other realm. There are threads of Heros being dealt 3600 damage, including IP being popped, in 3 rounds or ~11sec, with a hero having max melee resist. Tanks in other realms are begging to be able to do 1/3 of that in the same time frame.

Duels are not indicative of RvR performance. In RvR buffed zerkers/savages > than all other melee. Frontloaded damage wins all.

Sko4, you no longer play on hibernia??
you now play on midgard??

nuff said.

<=== Hib since day 1, just recently moved to midgard so i can have fun like you Sko, i want to farm hibs all day long too.

your insults are weak.

/cry more noob, is better than your little insult.

<Wait so which is it? .. Hibernia has the least pop so they get the most RP's (the excuse a few patches ago), or Hibernia has the least RP's because they have the least pop (when in fact, on average, they have nearly the same pop as mid).

Could you make up your minds?>

Both asumptions are compatible to the argument. The argument says that hibs have higher RP's *per player* but lower RP's as a realm overall.

Now the validity of the argument is a wholy different story.

For instance, the RM can debuff his own damage type just like the enchanter

Darkness Runemasters have a spell line with a weaker dd that does a 10% Cold debuff. It's not a very significant debuff.

Runecarving Runemasters are listed on the Herald as having a powerful Energy debuff, but that is inaccurate. It is, in fact, a Matter Debuff.

<<Mids can do it best, not only highest, fastest damage PBAE >>

Guess you're not the expert on PBAOE you thought you were.

Yes the Mid PBAOE is the highest spec PBAOE.

Hib & Alb outdamage the higher spec Mid PBAOE just by picking Elf or Avalonian as starting race.

So Alb/Hib PBAOE does more damage, costs less power, costs fewer spec points & casts just as fast as the Mid PBAOE.

Its called pbaoe zerg tactics. Served best on moving force ambushed in place with limited visibility - 2-3 bards/healers spam ae mez, when 6-7 pbaoes nuke hell out of train, which doesn`t have enough time to react, druid/healer spamming spread heal. Doesn`t work on hibs due to baod.

Same can be said about LW heros, couple with fact, that zerks can be mezzed/rooted, thus negating possible use of purge, when LW hero is immune to cc thanks to baod.
Though this ability is on 30 minutes timer, think about following layout:
dru/warden/bard/2 chanters/2 heros/champ, bringing to the table complete magic immunity once per 15 minutes.

2 poster with "farming hibs" remark:
bard was deleted on patch 1.52, long time ago, when hib recieved all their uber toys. So /cry more n00b, and hope you'll rot in malmo for ages.

Hib Classes,

Hero >>>>>>> ANY TANK (should be nerfed)

Enchanter > Runey, Wizard

Mentalist <<<<< Sorc (Sorc's are just off the chart gross now)

Druid < Cleric

Bard = Healer (both do their jobs well).

Warden < Shaman or Friar

Animist (class is too limited) <<<<< Necro and Bone Dancer

I would nerf Heros and maybe Enchanters, I would help Mentalist, Wardens and a little for Druids.

sko4

If I might ask - You're playing on version 1.57, how come you feel qualified to join a discussion on version 1.60 ?

<Darkness Runemasters have a spell line with a weaker dd that does a 10% Cold debuff. It's not a very significant debuff.

Runecarving Runemasters are listed on the Herald as having a powerful Energy debuff, but that is inaccurate. It is, in fact, a Matter Debuff.>

Debuff their DD. An enchanter debuffs their DD not PBAE. Void Elds debuff energy.

An RM has a baseline cold DD and the runecarver has a cold debuff line. This is equivalent to the enchanter who debuffs their heat baseline DD.

Both can also dual spec to debuff a spec dd of lower damage, still capping damage.

<Guess you're not the expert on PBAOE you thought you were.

Yes the Mid PBAOE is the highest spec PBAOE.

Hib & Alb outdamage the higher spec Mid PBAOE just by picking Elf or Avalonian as starting race.

So Alb/Hib PBAOE does more damage, costs less power, costs fewer spec points & casts just as fast as the Mid PBAOE.>

Your points is stat based? Any educated player understands that racial differences amount to nothing at Level50. The same reason a Lurikeen Hero can hit as hard as a Firbolg Hero applies to casters. Even looking forward to overcapping it won't make a difference. If you add the fact you need Augmented Acuity 3 for MoC, you can see all races considerably exceed the cap.

Finally the power cost is 31 vs 32.... In return you spec it at lvl49. This gives you a percentage decrease to chance to resist and increased damage.

Guess I am the expert on PBAE I thought I was. Please feel free to try again.

"Yes the Mid PBAOE is the highest spec PBAOE.

Hib & Alb outdamage the higher spec Mid PBAOE just by picking Elf or Avalonian as starting race. "

i don't understand why people are arguing over such a miniscule difference in damage output between the pbaes. for all practical purposes, pbae hurts no matter if it's from wiz/chanter/eld/sm.

the big difference in the case of the mids is that their healers also have access to ae stun

"Hero >>>>>>> ANY TANK (should be nerfed)"

Oh, yeah, the boards are always filled with with stories about how that hero dealt them massive damage and slaughtered their groups.... oops! no, that's bezerkers, sorry.

"Enchanter > Runey, Wizard"

Haven't played a runie and only a lowbie wizzie but you're saying that the pet is greater than the amazing utility those classes get. I suspect thats extremely situational and subjective.

"Mentalist <<<<< Sorc (Sorc's are just off the chart gross now)"

Agreed. Sorcerors do have far more utility than ments now. Heck, ments look downright anemic now.

"Druid < Cleric"

Again, subjective and situational. In certain situations, either class could be more useful.

"Bard = Healer (both do their jobs well)"

You're saying an easily identified bard with only one form of cc, reinforced armor, weak heals, and very easily interuptible end song is equal to an indistinguable, chain wearing, healer with several forms of cc because the bard has mach 5, I presume. Well, I know some people have made that argument on paper but bards know differently. Fight starts, bards run in circle trying desperately to escape the chasing tanks while trying to amnesia all the casters trying to nuke him. Frankly, I'm surprised anyone plays a bard in RvR. Its not fun being the first killed in every encounter.

"Warden < Shaman or Friar"

As far as usefulness to groups in RvR? Dunno - wardens are pretty nice. Though, I agree Friars rock, I don't think they lend as much to a group as a warden.

"Animist (class is too limited) <<<<< Necro and Bone Dancer"

Absolutely agree. Why Hib got stuck with the Animists while BDs rule RvR and Necro's are so useful everywhere, I have no idea.

Sko4, you realize your game is 3 patches ago... things have changed considerably since 1.57, especially if you are an alb.

Your posts have absolutely no bearing on the version of the game currently being played on conventional North American servers.

Your point is moot and immaterial.

In zerg vs. zerg = Winner:ALbion
In Keep Offense = Winner:Albion
In Keep Defense = Winner:Hibernia
In ganking 8v8 = Winner:Mid



Reasons?


Albion leads zerg battles and keep offense with outstanding range, 2 stealther wall climbers, and many good casters.


Hibernia leads Keep defense with many good casters, Animist pets, and a fair amount of GT and PB.


Mid leads ganking because melees are just ridiculous in the open field now and theres nothing casters can do versus the 2 best tanks when those same tanks have cheap IP, cheap Purge, and over 50% magic resists.


<EDIT>
BDs rule RvR

No they don't, BD's suck in RvR, no frontend damage. They're only good 1v1, and thats only 1 particular line. For the most part, BD's suck bad.
<end edit>



FIX MAGIC RESISTS AND YOU FIX HIB AND ALB FOR GANKING!!! NO MORE ZERG FOR TEH WIN PLEASE!

sko4, you are not even playing the same game as most of us in Hib are. You are still playing in the Dark Ages as far as patches go, imho and really have no clue as to what you are in for yet.

Wait a few patches, then lets see what you have to say.

"Hero >>>>>>> ANY TANK (should be nerfed)"

Oh, yeah, the boards are always filled with with stories about how that hero dealt them massive damage and slaughtered their groups.... oops! no, that's bezerkers, sorry."

Well we disagree on this one. Godizilla in Moose Form is the nastiest Tank out there. Easy!

<Hero >>>>>>> ANY TANK (should be nerfed)>

Then what would you say about a tank class that could do this to a Hero?

http://warbringers.homestead.com/files/compilation.JPG
http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=46555816&replies=316

Simple fact is Calcar, that you are WRONG about the PBAOE.

You can try to hem and haw all you want about it, but it doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG.

If a simple fact as picking a starting race can give Hib/Alb a PBAOE advantage over Mid who spends more spec points and power for a lower damage PBAOE, then your whole argument about how Mid has the better PBAOE is WRONG.

But that's ok, you're WRONG about so many things, one more thing won't make too much of a difference.

Yes Hibernia has the best RvR classes in the game, like;

Our Heros, who can be outdamaged and out ENDed by Zerkers?

Our Enchanters, Who's only claim to fame is the ability to Debuff their DD & Stun. Both Ablion Wizards and Midgard Runemasters DD's delve for more damage?

Our caster have baseline Stun, with only one valid spec line (Mana PABOE)

Our Bards are so uber their life expectancy in combat is 10 seconds, or how long it takes for everyone to identify them and take em down.

Our Mez is Uber, Compared to that bolt ranged mez of Albion, or the Intant Stuns and Mezs of Pac Healers.

Our Lullaby is Uber interrupt. Yes it is so uber, it can interrupt one caster every 5 seconds, Bone Dancers have a 4 second recast instant life tape that not only interrupts but does damage and heals the caster.

Hibernia has PBT on a Scale wearing class. This class also is the absolutely worst healer and worst tank in the game.

RP totals surely show Hibernia is dominating every week. Defintion of Domination = being dead last!

Yes our averages are high. Cause no one PvE's in Hibernia, except to RvR....

The unique ability of Hibernia? Endurance Regen? Given out to Albion and Midgard is extremely superior forms!

There is NOT one ability in Hibernia that either Albion or Midgard or BOTH realms do not have in a superior form. Some people need to reach between their legs, grasp firmly on their ears and pull. The loud popping sound you hear will be your head coming out of your arse!

To tell you the truth, I stated in Oct 01 in Hibernia, first a gimp... I mean blademaster, then as a bard. I don't do flavor of the month classes.

In May 02 a friend of mine convinced me to try Albion. Was so disgusted by the disparities in the realm, I quit in Aug 02 till Dec 02, when Wife convinced me to return to game.

Stayed in Hibernia, know it was gimped, passed over, till we tried Midgard.

We are done in Hibernia, unless changes are made. Many long time Hibernian players are quiting, or switching realms. I guess you won't be happy till it is Midgard vs. Albion and midgard rolls albion into the dust.

How many leaving Mid for Hib or Leaving Alb for hib posts do you see?

Now how many Leaving Hib for Mid or Leaving Hib for Alb posts do you see?

I mean common on people, do you really need a 1000ton clue to drop on you?

GRP earned last week:
ALBION: 8,579,135 (27.57% of total)
HIBERNIA: 14,258,380 (45.82% of total)
MIDGARD: 8,282,253 (26.61% of total)
--------------------------

The population you ask?
Last poll shows
Midgard's 40+ population is around 290
Hibernia's 250
ALbion 230

thats about as ballanced as you can get. population wise. Once all the bandwagon hibs came back from playing their new classes in other realms and came back to playing their CHANTERS and CHAMPIONS it turned my server back into a hibernian clinic on troll stomping. We should be looking at servers with ballanced population to compare POWER of the realms like Kay and Isuelt.
SI just had a bunch of classes that where waaay sexy and people wanted to run out and play them. now that people have gotten the new classes out of their system and dont like their reaver over their champion or bonedancer over their enchanter things will get back to normal for hibernia. Being dominant.

Which server is this? ^^^^^^^^

<Its called pbaoe zerg tactics. Served best on moving force ambushed in place with limited visibility - 2-3 bards/healers spam ae mez, when 6-7 pbaoes nuke hell out of train, which doesn`t have enough time to react, druid/healer spamming spread heal. Doesn`t work on hibs due to baod.>

I could see your point for 1-2 groups. You posted;

< 2 FG of Venegance (hib/exc) vs. 10 fg alb zerg.>

No way. Not unless you play several patches back. Or the players were inexperienced with lots of low levels.

Also BAOD is an active RA. Good to noone in an ambush where mez/stun is the opener. BAOD<<BoF as casters are dead first in the open field conflict. Casters just arent a threat.


<Same can be said about LW heros, couple with fact, that zerks can be mezzed/rooted, thus negating possible use of purge, when LW hero is immune to cc thanks to baod.
Though this ability is on 30 minutes timer, think about following layout:
dru/warden/bard/2 chanters/2 heros/champ, bringing to the table complete magic immunity once per 15 minutes.>

You do realize that CC under current conditions is for all practical purposes useless, right? For 6 RP a tank can have 45% immunity to CC. Then resists are applied to the remaning time. And AoE CC drops from center to the edge. BAOD helps non-tanks only as it applies to CC. My hero with determ 4 and item resists hasn't been mez'd for longer than a few seconds yet. With standard resist buffs I blink once if they are lucky. Zerks get the *same* cheap RA's. Go look at the RA list for champs and tell me what cost you see.

I didnt even buy purge because determ+resists is so powerful AND passive. But add that to the list of anti-cc everyone can have.

Rofl lmao. Good rebuttal. Thank you for defeating my argument point by point .

<Simple fact is Calcar, that you are WRONG about the PBAOE.

You can try to hem and haw all you want about it, but it doesn't change the fact that you are WRONG.

If a simple fact as picking a starting race can give Hib/Alb a PBAOE advantage over Mid who spends more spec points and power for a lower damage PBAOE, then your whole argument about how Mid has the better PBAOE is WRONG.

But that's ok, you're WRONG about so many things, one more thing won't make too much of a difference.>

Some interesting stats for you...

RP Totals across the Servers as of 3/25/2003
Albion | Hibernia | Midgard
Palomides: 14,064,323 | 3,597,192| 12,065,360
Iseult: 7,214,760 | 10,544,728 | 13,047,395
Pellinor: 12,183,594 | 10,000,161 | 8,510,229
Bors: 7,315,274 | 10,150,331 | 13,619,134
Bedevere: 12,010,094 | 16,342,385 | 5,648,071
Gawaine: 13,088,239 | 11,628,022 | 10,339,187
Nimue: 7,211,986 | 4,625,336 |12,130,104
Kay: 8,655,554 | 10,469,399 | 12,418,375
Tristan: 12,447,913 | 9,054,107 | 13,674,918
Igraine: 15,395,375 | 11,716,691 | 11,024,404
Galahad: 11,206,193 | 9,120,062 | 14,993,958
Lancelot: 18,225,785 | 10,748,560 | 21,824,833
Percival: 16,038,323 | 10,680,497 | 20,300,932
Morgan Le Fay: 13,336,657 | 18,620,608 | 16,427,500
Guinevere: 20,189,384 | 13,236,700 | 20,840,035
Merlin: 23,311,595 | 8,935,945 | 23,617,330
TOTAL GRP's 211,895,049 | 169,470,724 | 230,481,765

That's ok Calcar, I'm sure there are other 'special' people like you who wouldn't understand facts.

On Galahad the top 25 Heros have more realm points than top 25 Healers!!!!!!!!! Yes a Tank Class has more realm points than the main line CC/Healer class of another realm. Yet both realms are very close in total realm points since the game started.

OH YEA HEROS ARE WEAKER THAN ZERKS, ROFLMAO.

Strange Zerks don't have more Realm Points than Healers!

So you are saying Heroes are better than zerkers becuase Heroes have more RPs that healers?

Excuse me if I am confused!

Current Stats On Galahad
ALBION: 11,278,189 (31.78% of total)
HIBERNIA: 9,148,392 (25.77% of total)
MIDGARD: 15,066,959 (42.45% of total)


15,066,959 is very very close to 9,148,392, it is so close why don't you give me the difference in USD!

Btw You got your numbers from... the Camelotseer?
Please refer to my signature.

Finally lets look at this week's Champions for Heroes and Zerkers

Zerkers?
1) Huslas The Dark Regime 50th lvl Dwarf Berserker RP: 101,639
2) Hakond Ormstunge (50th level Berserker) [Divide et Impera] 52,845
3) Jhed Syn (50th level Berserker) [Shadow Gypsies] 49,295
4) Baltistol ZeBrave (50th level Berserker) [The Black Company] 48,473
5) Olag (50th level Berserker) [Medieval Disciples] 48,247
6) Horidd ThugStatus (50th level Berserker) [Odins Gatekeepers] 38,773
7) Finnbogi Vndgaard (50th level Berserker) [Order of the Dark Star] 36,528
8) Gimiili KILLalbsKILLalbsKILL (50th level Berserker) [The Ninth Night] 34,157
9) Hotair Balloon (50th level Berserker) [The Federation] 32,436
10) Flybynight (50th level Berserker) [Black Thorn] 32,433
11) Aminal G (50th level Berserker) [The Knightwatch] 30,552
12) Hord Purestone (50th level Berserker) [Mithril Circle] 26,491
13) Quant (50th level Berserker) [Blackadder] 23,999
14) Salium Zabojca (50th level Berserker) [Hooded Nomads] 22,996
15) Wardoth (50th level Berserker) [MidgardUK] 21,498
16) Xon Borkum (50th level Berserker) [Odins Gatekeepers] 21,343
17) Fryd OgGammen (50th level Berserker) [Mithril Circle] 21,297
18) Gloren Ironshield (50th level Berserker) [Ook Ook] 20,238
19) Xaldor HitAndRun (50th level Berserker) [The Kindred] 18,179
20) Uhlrik Charger (50th level Berserker) [The Federation] 17,277
21) Internalwarfare Powa (49th level Berserker) [Hooded Nomads] 16,173
22) Lilangus Atesdagam (50th level Berserker) [Shadow Gypsies] 15,485
23) Trizo (50th level Berserker) [Ook Ook] 15,482
24) Granet Silvermane (50th level Berserker) [The Black Company] 14,969
25) Demetre Darksoul (50th level Berserker) [Mithril Circle] 14,676

Heroes?
1) Cognac XO Eclipse 50th lvl Firbolg Hero RP: 86,724
2) Looped (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 80,259
3) Kerria (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 73,468
4) Cryax (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 41,081
5) Varshyl Silverwood (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 32,065
6) Hurikeen (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 30,568
7) Vagen (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 27,197
8) Horsefield (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 26,771
9) Piks MomAndDymsWife (50th level Heroine) [Blue Circle] 26,331
10) Jimi (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 23,095
11) Jebu (50th level Hero) [Transcendents] 20,103
12) Seika (50th level Heroine) [Lan Duil] 19,750
13) Llonydd (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 19,710
14) Khido Ironfist (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 18,778
15) Gorma Ice (50th level Hero) [Method of Destruction] 16,731
16) Tinycarol Cute (50th level Hero) [Fong Shen] 16,379
17) Stabalot Tolabats (50th level Hero) [Forest Guardians] 15,843
18) Pikalow Farkward (50th level Hero) [Blue Circle] 15,238
19) Theslammer (50th level Hero) [Ring of the East] 14,907
20) Toraja TheBattleDruid (50th level Heroine) [Majop] 14,222
21) Darkram (50th level Heroine) [Octopus] 12,885
22) Luft Balloons (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 12,457
23) Rhayvin Immakeelu (50th level Heroine) [Method of Destruction] 11,960
24) Natedogg Woofwoof (50th level Hero) [Viaticus] 11,269
25) Hiridbh (50th level Hero) [Kindred Spirits] 8,134

Totals?
Zerkers: 775,481
Heroes: 675,925

Yep those Heroes are just creaming the zerkers!

Albs got attention recently.

its time now for Mid and Hib to get some attention too.

Daryen is from Kay server, where Hibs have been downright OWNING the past week+. They got 3 power relics last weekend and have been DEFENDING hardcore in emain. Knock on a keep doors and they are there in a blink of an eye.

Hibs need MORALE. Hib Kay got morale (by taking relics) and is kicking arse. Hibs do not have a big population advantage on Kay,they are winnign because they are playing smart, and since lots of RvR DOES happen in emain, they should be leading. :\

"On Galahad the top 25 Heros have more realm points than top 25 Healers!!!!!!!!! Yes a Tank Class has more realm points than the main line CC/Healer class of another realm. Yet both realms are very close in total realm points since the game started."

Oh yes, the top 25 list. Of course the fact that that list shows all the rps per class has nothing to do with it. It also has nothing to do with the fact it doesn't show a weekly report on each player. Which would in turn show how each patch affected the rps accumulated. There's many other facts that won't show.

RPS matter crap in proving anything per class.

Here, I'll prove the exact opposite of your argument.

I play on Percival.

Top 25 rp holders :
Mid : 11 (4 zerkers)
Alb : 7 (OMG, a scout is #1, NERF SCOUTS)
Hib : 6 (2 Blademasters, and they need help?!?!?)
Anon : 1
ok

Now, top 25 for the past 7 days:
Mid : 16
Alb : 5
Hib : 3
Anon : 1

Hrrmmm, ok, so according to reading your kind of facts, zerkers need nerfing (true), scouts are completely fine since on perc we have the #1 as a scout, and BMs need nerfing.

Oh, and another little tidbit, the class with the highest IRS is a Healer

This might sound frivolous but I believe it is true and, if so, it requires more than a simple fix.

I think it is the races of Hibernia that has limited the population. Seriously, I would never play a Firbolg or an Elf, and Lurikeens are on many people 'will-not-play' list. SI gave Hibernia Sylvans and...well, you get the picture.

Mids have dwarves, sexy norse women (can anyone say 'shadowblade'?), and the Valkyn is arguably the coolest race in the game. Albs have the Highlanders and tell me, how many blonde Briton female clerics have you seen today?

Hibernia has some of the best rvr classes in the game but their races look terrible. Yes, looks aren't everything, but at some point bad looks will break the "I will play a Hib" deal.

Albion | Hibernia | Midgard
Palomides: 14,064,323 | 3,597,192| 12,065,360
Nimue: 7,211,986 | 4,625,336 |12,130,104
Merlin: 23,311,595 | 8,935,945 | 23,617,330

Wow, stick a fork in Hib Palo, Hib Nimue, and Hib Merlin.

I dont know if its balance/population/skill but whatever the reason, those are some dead realms. 3 million VS 14 million on Palo ? rofl

O.

/Quote/
Read File
from Sanya Thomas
2003-03-25 15:22:04


Just a reminder - a read file is something used to make a fix to the game without taking the servers down. Today's read file: Frontier Keeps: The imposter posing as Niallan Zethar has been removed. The real Niallan will now defend Hibernia as vigorously as his imposter attacked it.

/end of quote/

Sigh... Even the NPCs were against Hibernia. How do you expect us to survive.

Galahad Heros:
1) Looped
Eclipse
50th lvl Celt Hero
RP: 4,235,012

2) Varshyl Silverwood (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 2,988,568
3) Marval (50th level Hero) [Independent] 2,666,641
4) Iola (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 2,034,709
5) Pallax (50th level Hero) [Forest Guardians] 1,654,898
6) Herofury (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 1,555,369
7) Wesker (50th level Hero) [Fong Shen] 1,386,976
8) Jimi (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 1,260,384
9) Khido Ironfist (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 1,177,365
10) Jibboo DankNugget (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 992,443
11) Vallora Khusrenada (50th level Heroine) [Infinite Darkness] 928,949
12) Kerria (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 895,815
13) Cognac XO (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 887,637
14) Luft Balloons (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 834,161
15) Stabalot Tolabats (50th level Hero) [Forest Guardians] 791,073
16) Tinycarol Cute (50th level Hero) [Fong Shen] 720,737
17) Vigabrand (50th level Hero) [Blue Circle] 713,210
18) Horsefield (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 700,715
19) Lilian (50th level Hero) [Pak'Cafan] 677,200
20) Tooster Stroodle (50th level Hero) [Roisin Dubh] 624,610
21) Dreggen Anvilheart (50th level Hero) [Dusk Brigade] 615,516
22) Rhayvin Immakeelu (50th level Heroine) [Method of Destruction] 580,155
23) Toraja TheBattleDruid (50th level Heroine) [Majop] 578,413
24) Grao Adamant (50th level Hero) [Forest Guardians] 572,398
25) Gorma Ice (50th level Hero) [Method of Destruction] 562,816



Galahad Healers:
1) Bracy TiedTheKnot
Medieval Disciples
50th lvl Norseman Healer
RP: 2,883,588

2) Baerrin (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 2,585,557
3) Afire SupaHeala (50th level Healer) [Fellowship] 1,953,551
4) Zanii (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 1,667,908
5) Yabah DabbaDoo (50th level Healer) [Black Thorn] 1,476,754
6) Teletha ReyezsBoss (50th level Healer) [Tempest] 1,385,971
7) Rikkiru Trakand (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 1,303,041
8) Gtfo ThisSpaceForRent (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 1,288,011
9) Taeron (50th level Healer) [Ballistic] 1,105,663
10) Yanger Banger (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 996,993
11) Orr (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 961,553
12) Kaldor SheepWhisperer (50th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 938,541
13) Gwinny DaPooh (50th level Healer) [Crimson Wolves] 775,909
14) Aanna (50th level Healer) [Black Thorn] 772,317
15) Kraker Dawn (50th level Healer) [Medieval Disciples] 708,397
16) Carl (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 674,846
17) Meia Soujiro (50th level Healer) [Aspect] 667,017
18) Khyryn Vidaar (50th level Healer) [The Black Company] 661,570
19) Teilla BooBooKisser (50th level Healer) [Hooded Nomads] 650,130
20) Clubkid (50th level Healer) [Mithril Circle] 592,821
21) Tueuses Toutenue (50th level Healer) [Derniere Alliance of Quebec] 589,947
22) Bashom Darktrance (50th level Healer) [Aspect] 549,667
23) Biig (50th level Healer) [Ballistic] 539,564
24) Sappon Ormstunge (50th level Healer) [Divide et Impera] 535,417
25) Zinser (50th level Healer) [Black Thorn] 510,107


LOOK AT THE DAM NUMBERS MORONS. The top Hero has OVER A MILLION MORE REALM POINTS THAN THE TOP HEALER TO BOOT!

Hero's are gross AND HIBS YOU LOOK LIKE MORONS TO DENY IT. I'm in favor of Mentalist, Wardens maybe some other classes getting LUV. HELL NO TO HEROS.

<Sigh... Even the NPCs were against Hibernia. How do you expect us to survive.>

Lol shocked the heck out of us when he attacked us. None of the keep defenders attacked him. We thought it was some random glitch =P.

Hero's are gimped, give us luv pls. Put stag on 10 or 15 min timer. At least fix CS styles.

Hib palo is dead dead. Albs have always been dominate on this server and with the bandwagon effect their numbers are up over 50% of the server. Population is so out of wack there its not funny and it gets worse all the time. Hibs/mids fleeing to other servers/games while more albs pile in to "win" daoc. Pretty sad if you ask me.

Debugurwork .... pls crawl away and hide somewhere.

Actually lets look at Gallahad a little closer since you picked that server.

Last weeks top 5 Heros earned
1) Cognac XO Eclipse 50th lvl Firbolg Hero RP: 86,724
2) Looped (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 80,259
3) Kerria (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 73,468
4) Cryax (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 41,081
5) Varshyl Silverwood (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 32,065

Total = 313,597

Top 5 Healers earned
1) Bracy TiedTheKnot Medieval Disciples 50th lvl Norseman Healer RP: 215,418
2) Afire SupaHeala (50th level Healer) [Fellowship] 183,830
3) Carl (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 157,618
4) Baerrin (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 146,024
5) Zanii (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 98,769

total = 801,659

So on Gallahad last week the top 5 healers earned more than DOUBLE what the top 5 heros earned.

Nice job ace. You just proved healers need nerfing and heros are gimped. lol

"LOOK AT THE DAM NUMBERS MORONS. The top Hero has OVER A MILLION MORE REALM POINTS THAN THE TOP HEALER TO BOOT!"

I just looked at the numbers you moron. Since the alb love patch and the mid end buff, the middy healers are doubling the heros RPs.

Whats your point exactly ? Heros are gimped ?

"Hero's are gross AND HIBS YOU LOOK LIKE MORONS TO DENY IT. I'm in favor of Mentalist, Wardens maybe some other classes getting LUV. HELL NO TO HEROS."

Heros suck now. Ive got one and I dont play it anymore. They suck because ...
1 - Worst armor in the game. Hib scale wearers are using RF now.
2 - No end regen. Everyone else has end regen but hib now. No bard, dead bard, bard bot.
3 - 50% insta solo heal every 30 minutes. Big deal. Paladins get a 80% plus insta GROUP heal. Minstrels get an ablative chant that negates more than the hero stag form heales. A zerker strips off that extra health from stag form IN ONE HIT.

Heros are obsolete now. Lots of non-pure melee classes can beat them in straight melee fights.

O.

Debug,
Please take a long hard look in the mirror before you call me a moron again!

Those numbers are from day 1. At one time Heroes WERE the best tanks. Since the debacle of END farmed out to Mid and Albion that dominance has ended badly.

For the past 3 months Berzerkers have been out RPing Heroes on a constant basis.

Thank you, here is your cookie and your thorizine. Please kinding take these razor blades and go play in that corner.

"Hero's are gross AND HIBS YOU LOOK LIKE MORONS TO DENY IT. I'm in favor of Mentalist, Wardens maybe some other classes getting LUV. HELL NO TO HEROS."

Uuummm Debug... I don't think there's any requests for heroes getting any love. Well, I did see one moron seriously saying we needed help but he got shot down fast by alot including me.

Only problems Heroes have is the CS nerf (<shrug> oh well) and a gimped style line which most melee classes face from all realms.

Also, you're looking at accumulative rp earnings. Those don't count as I explained before.

But, if you want to play that game, then here's the list or rps from heroes and healers for the last SEVEN DAYS from Galahad (the same server you're pulling stats from):

1) Bracy TiedTheKnot
Medieval Disciples
50th lvl Norseman Healer
RP: 215,418


2) Afire SupaHeala (50th level Healer) [Fellowship] 183,830
3) Carl (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 157,618
4) Baerrin (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 146,024
5) Zanii (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 98,769
6) Teletha ReyezsBoss (50th level Healer) [Tempest] 91,982
7) Yabah DabbaDoo (50th level Healer) [Black Thorn] 79,090
8) Orr (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 67,430
9) Sappon Ormstunge (50th level Healer) [Divide et Impera] 50,182
10) Carzim (50th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 46,143
11) Kraker Dawn (50th level Healer) [Medieval Disciples] 45,955
12) Twelfth (49th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 41,820
13) Kaldor SheepWhisperer (50th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 38,786
14) Admedic Lightforge (50th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 38,517
15) Meia Soujiro (50th level Healer) [Aspect] 37,607
16) Huni (50th level Healer) [Blackadder] 32,394
17) Clubkid (50th level Healer) [Mithril Circle] 29,794
18) Necho Ewesintrouble (44th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 26,535
19) Holyslayer (50th level Healer) [The Federation] 25,025
20) Marydith (50th level Healer) [The Knightwatch] 24,154
21) Runeflinger MangBane (50th level Healer) [Ook Ook] 22,337
22) Grikk IsAThaneSoDontAttackMe (50th level Healer) [Mithril Circle] 21,865
23) Molera MasterMedic (50th level Healer) [Shadow Gypsies] 21,696
24) Tueuses Toutenue (50th level Healer) [Derniere Alliance of Quebec] 21,591
25) Hastey (50th level Healer) [Independent] 20,090

1) Cognac XO
Eclipse
50th lvl Firbolg Hero
RP: 86,724


2) Looped (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 80,259
3) Kerria (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 73,468
4) Cryax (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 41,081
5) Varshyl Silverwood (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 32,065
6) Hurikeen (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 30,568
7) Vagen (50th level Hero) [Infinite Darkness] 27,197
8) Horsefield (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 26,771
9) Piks MomAndDymsWife (50th level Heroine) [Blue Circle] 26,331
10) Jimi (50th level Heroine) [Eclipse] 23,095
11) Jebu (50th level Hero) [Transcendents] 20,103
12) Seika (50th level Heroine) [Lan Duil] 19,750
13) Llonydd (50th level Hero) [Eclipse] 19,710
14) Khido Ironfist (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 18,778
15) Gorma Ice (50th level Hero) [Method of Destruction] 16,731
16) Tinycarol Cute (50th level Hero) [Fong Shen] 16,379
17) Stabalot Tolabats (50th level Hero) [Forest Guardians] 15,843
18) Pikalow Farkward (50th level Hero) [Blue Circle] 15,238
19) Theslammer (50th level Hero) [Ring of the East] 14,907
20) Toraja TheBattleDruid (50th level Heroine) [Majop] 14,222
21) Darkram (50th level Heroine) [Octopus] 12,885
22) Luft Balloons (50th level Hero) [Black Ice] 12,457
23) Rhayvin Immakeelu (50th level Heroine) [Method of Destruction] 11,960
24) Natedogg Woofwoof (50th level Hero) [Viaticus] 11,269
25) Hiridbh (50th level Hero) [Kindred Spirits] 8,134

Yep, sure looks those heroes are creaming the healers with the top healer have more than twice the number of weekly rps than the top hero.

Go Debug yer work some more.

"LOOK AT THE DAM NUMBERS MORONS. The top Hero has OVER A MILLION MORE REALM POINTS THAN THE TOP HEALER TO BOOT!

Hero's are gross AND HIBS YOU LOOK LIKE MORONS TO DENY IT. I'm in favor of Mentalist, Wardens maybe some other classes getting LUV. HELL NO TO HEROS. "

OMG OMG I TYPE IN ALL CAPS TO EMPHASIZE THAT STATISTICALLY SPEAKING ********* ONE ********* PERSON ON ******** ONE ******** SERVER HAS MORE RPS THAN ********ONE********PERSON ON THAT SAME SERVER.

/endcaps.

for example, the number 1 rp earner for the week on lancelot is a healer. he earned 560k rps. the top hero earned 129k... therefore logically speaking based on a whopping sample of 2 people, healers all need to be nerfed by a factor of 5.

/em hands debug a tissue and a bandaid for his bruised ego.

<But, if you want to play that game, then here's the list or rps from heroes and healers for the last SEVEN DAYS from Galahad (the same server you're pulling stats from)>

Oh for crying out loud STOP THAT Seter. Logic not allowed.

Following the original posters method Morphius is the top Eldritch on Percival.

Morphius.

"Oh for crying out loud STOP THAT Seter. Logic not allowed."

Well following the logic. Heros for MOST of the game have been over powered. Now until RECENTLY Zerks are doing better than Heros. Is that what your trying to say????

Well by same logic how about we compare Heros to Thanes instead of Zerks. Has a Thane ever been better than a Hero, not including Pre-Moose Form!

Debug,
You started this. LOL

Learn to quit while you are ahead ok. But lets see, Hibernia is not dying becuase heroes are the best tanks (ignoring of course zerkers).

Yes Heroes were once the best tanks. Now they are not. What other class would you like to claim Hibernia has that is dominating the RvR fields? Enchanters? (grins evilly)

Care to get educated why Hibernians are leaving the Realm/game? www.Hibernianprotest.com