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Author Topic: Used my respec to test a couple other abilities: Bladedance and Hail of Blows.
Obe. 370 posts
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Date Posted: 5/17 6:16pm Subject: Used my respec to test a couple other abilities: Bladedance and Hail of Blows.
First I'll start out with bladedance. It may not seem like a bad choice besideds the fact that you will need aug dex 3, luckly most will have aug dex 2 for MoP but that's not the issue.

Starting from scratch Bladedance will take you 24 points to train (aug dex 3(10) and Bladedance itself costing 14). Well I tested this out only in RvR because it seems that's the best place to use it if you did get this. Down to what you all want to know. How much damage does bladedance do? Well as you may/may not know it's a PBae (Point Blank area effect) spell in the middle of the radius you can expect your Bladedance to hit for 100-150 damage 150 being highly unlikely reaching out to the outer edges I'd say not even 15 feet away it dramatically decreses to the 25-40 damage range. It is also on a 30 minute timer, which according to the website should be 15, but still not worth it even it it were every 5 minutes.

Summary of Bladedance:

This skill costs _WAY_ too much, I would never get this skill if it costed me 3 points with no pre req. But hey if you like to pop stealthers and waste 24 points just for that, you may be the only one. I can't imagine that they increased the damage in the last patch because if they did I'd hate to see the damage before patch.
Don't get this skill.

Now off to Hail of Blows:

Well according to the realm abilities webpage from Mythic Hail of blows is supposed to decrease your attack speeds by 50% (not going under the floor of 1.5 delay ever.). So knowing this I used my handy arcanite spiked mace with a 4.2 delay. So basically on paper when I use hail of blows my delay should drop to 2.1 delay. Hail of blows is going to cost you a total of 13 points to get (aug dEx 3 (10) and HoB 3 points), so if you're going the MoP route for 9 points you can get this skill. Well I did a little logging here and will post them below. Note: These are only 2 fights but I feel that it is very clear that it shows the effectiveness of Hail of Blows.

I will dispell a couple myths that people have about this ability. First off when you use this ability your damageper swing does not decrease, you just attack faster, damage stays the same. Hail of Blows is on a 15 minute timer at level 1 and it has 3 levels, I did not have enough points to get level 2 so I'm not sure what it does. my guess would be just a shorter timer.

Log without Hail of Blows:

*** Chat Log Opened: Fri May 17 19:09:01 2002

[19:09:04] You enter combat mode and target the [loghery man]
[19:09:04] You prepare to perform a Hurricane!
[19:09:04] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+32)
[19:09:04] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 94 damage!
[19:09:04] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 40 damage!
[19:09:05] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:09:06] You prepare to perform a Solar Flare!
[19:09:08] You perform your Solar Flare perfectly. (+55)
[19:09:08] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 120 damage!
[19:09:09] You resist the effect!
[19:09:09] The loghery man hits your leg for 102 (-1) damage!
[19:09:10] You prepare to perform a Hurricane!
[19:09:11] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+37)
[19:09:11] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 107 damage!
[19:09:11] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 49 damage!
[19:09:13] You resist the effect!
[19:09:13] The loghery man hits your leg for 111 (-1) damage!
[19:09:15] You prepare to perform a Hurricane!
[19:09:15] You are now preparing to perform a Solar Flare style as a backup for Hurricane!
[19:09:15] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+37)
[19:09:15] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 108 damage!
[19:09:15] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 49 damage!
[19:09:17] You resist the effect!
[19:09:17] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:09:19] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 68 damage!
[19:09:19] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 39 damage!
[19:09:19] The loghery man resists the effect!
[19:09:19] You prepare to perform a Blinding Rain!
[19:09:21] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:09:22] You perform your Blinding Rain perfectly. (+106)
[19:09:22] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 220 damage!
[19:09:22] You critical hit for an additional 59 damage!
[19:09:22] The loghery man is bleeding!
[19:09:22] You hit the loghery man for 3 damage!
[19:09:24] You prepare to perform a Blizzard!
[19:09:25] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[19:09:25] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:09:26] You perform your Blizzard perfectly. (+107)
[19:09:26] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 216 damage!
[19:09:26] The loghery man cannot seem to move!
[19:09:27] The loghery man is bleeding!
[19:09:27] You hit the loghery man for 2 damage!
[19:09:28] You prepare to perform a Blinding Rain!
[19:09:29] The loghery man hits your torso for 92 (-1) damage!
[19:09:29] You are now preparing to perform a Hurricane style as a backup for Blinding Rain!
[19:09:30] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+68)
[19:09:30] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 197 damage!
[19:09:30] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 67 damage!
[19:09:30] You critical hit for an additional 27 damage!
[19:09:30] The loghery man dies!
[19:09:30] Your standing with the cluracan has decreased.
[19:09:30] Your standing with the leprechauns has increased.
[19:09:30] You get 31,316,936 experience points. (7,226,985 camp bonus)
[19:09:30] The loghery man drops a bag of coins.

*** Chat Log Closed: Fri May 17 19:09:33 2002

Fight lasting 24 seconds with 8 rounds of attacks. Approx swing speed: 3.0 delay.

Log with Hail of Blows:

*** Chat Log Opened: Fri May 17 19:10:33 2002

[19:10:35] You cast a Hail of Blows Spell!
[19:10:35] Your attacks speed up tremendously!
[19:10:39] You prepare to perform a Hurricane!
[19:10:41] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+48)
[19:10:41] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 143 damage!
[19:10:41] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 90 damage!
[19:10:42] You prepare to perform a Solar Flare!
[19:10:43] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[19:10:43] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:10:44] You perform your Solar Flare perfectly. (+81)
[19:10:44] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 179 damage!
[19:10:45] You prepare to perform a Blinding Rain!
[19:10:47] The loghery man attacks you and you parry the blow!
[19:10:48] You fail to execute your Blinding Rain perfectly.
[19:10:48] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 116 damage!
[19:10:48] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 87 damage!
[19:10:50] You prepare to perform a Stunning Blow!
[19:10:50] You are now preparing to perform a Hurricane style as a backup for Stunning Blow!
[19:10:51] The loghery man attacks you and you evade the blow!
[19:10:51] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+49)
[19:10:51] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 147 damage!
[19:10:54] You prepare to perform a Blinding Rain!
[19:10:54] You are now preparing to perform a Hurricane style as a backup for Blinding Rain!
[19:10:55] The loghery man attacks you and you parry the blow!
[19:10:55] You perform your Hurricane perfectly. (+66)
[19:10:55] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 198 damage!
[19:10:55] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 83 damage!
[19:10:58] You prepare to perform a Stunning Blow!
[19:10:58] You are now preparing to perform a Hurricane style as a backup for Stunning Blow!
[19:10:58] You perform your Stunning Blow perfectly. (+99)
[19:10:58] You attack the loghery man with your mace and hit for 229 damage!
[19:10:58] You critical hit for an additional 153 damage!
[19:10:58] The loghery man dies!
[19:10:58] Your standing with the cluracan has decreased.
[19:10:58] Your standing with the leprechauns has increased.
[19:10:58] You get 31,316,936 experience points. (7,226,985 camp bonus)
[19:10:58] The loghery man drops a bag of coins.


*** Chat Log Closed: Fri May 17 19:11:04 2002

Fight lasted 17 Seconds with 6 attacks. Approx swing speed: 2.83 delay.


Well it really doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out this one. Without HoB I swing at 3.0 with it I swing at 2.83. If that's working as intended then I would strongly say not to get this ability at all.

Summary of Hail of Blows:
While it looks good on the herald it definatley does not preform. From my tests it shows that hail of blows increases your swing time by ~ 6% hey maybe they missed a decimal point? Unsure, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Suggestion the the community, do not get this skill, if you really want to increase your attack speed just get a druid, or go with the Passive skill Mastery of Arms. With HoB on a 15 minute timer showing minute results it is definatly not worth the 13 points you would spend getting it.

Maybe you only see it work better on really slow weapons, but I'm doubting that for these tests I used a 4.2 delay mace with no buffs at all any my quickness at 98.

That's all I got for you, time to go back to some /respec ing so I can trash these 2 abilities. Take my recommendation do not get these abilities save your self some pain.

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Jubal-SOK 1,170 posts
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Date Posted: 5/17 6:21pm Subject: RE: Used my respec to test a couple other abilities: Bladedance and Hail of Blows.
Ouch, Thanks for the input.
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Obe. 370 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18 2:10am Subject: RE: Used my respec to test a couple other abilities: Bladedance and Hail of Blows.
What really hurts is that now I don't have any respecs left so if I get another PoS ability I can't do anything about it. Oh well..

/bump for the morning folks

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Zubey 478 posts
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Date Posted: 5/18 9:40am Subject: RE: Used my respec to test a couple other abilities: Bladedance and Hail of Blows.
Good data. Thanks.

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