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Author Topic: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Iktarr  2437 posts
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Date Posted: 6/7/03 12:54pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Here's something constructive...

Start an "Official" CD/DW/LA thread, because they are ALL worse than baseline weapon specs now.

/rude Mythic

 

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Ismaelec  2632 posts
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Date Posted: 6/7/03 1:49pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe. - Date Edited: 6/7/03 1:59pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Ismaelec
Duels done today 6/7/03 in front of MPK in emain. Mid has 10% strength relic bonus.

Khell is an SB who has atleast 39 in LA, and a buff bot. Not sure what spec the buffbot is nor Khell’s spec.

Khell SwordWraith
Member of Warlords Of Midgard
50th level Norseman Shadowblade
Isen Herra
Nimue

Data current as of 2003-06-07 4:21 PM EDT
Realm vs Realm information:
(This player has chosen to be anonymous.)



I’m a RR 6L3 Inf.

Ismael Absinthe
Member of Eternal Shadows
50th level Saracen Infiltrator
Phoenix Knight
Nimue

Data current as of 2003-06-07 2:55 PM EDT
This character has been logged in within the last 24 hours.

Realm vs Realm information:
Realm points: 1,247,343
Realm points earned this week: 81,411
Total deaths in RvR combat (since 06/26/02): 1,389
Deaths in RvR combat this week: 32
"I Remain Standing" score: 2,544.09

With a 50 enhance buffbot (Choa) using Mastery of Arcane II, I achieved the following stats:

50+16 Thrust
39+16 Critical Strike
34+16 Stealth/Env
30+16 DW

156/309 Strength
212/367 Dex
174/267 Quick

1298/1851 Hits

1049/1527 Weaponskill



RAs:

Vanish
Purge
MoP4
Aug Strength I
Aug Dex II
Aug Quick I
Aug Con I
Toughness I
Longwind I
Duelist Reflexes I

I use ALL MP SCed armor and weapons, with max resists to all physicals. Slash is 28% after racial bonuses.

Mainhand: Guarded Rapier (3.5 speed) /w DOT process
Offhand: Long Dirk (2.9 speed) /w DOT process
Secondary Mainhand: Azure Eviscerator (3.3 speed) – Sidi drop /w Damage Add process

If you wan't to see my gear, make a n00b on Alb/Nimue and I will gladly show you.



FIRST FIGHT

NOTE: I had a heal buff from the cleric that fired off.
[09:36:35] You heal yourself for 141 hit points.

Khell gets off Comeback and Frosty Glaze.


[09:35:14] You bow to Khell.
[09:35:16] Khell bows to you.
[09:35:17] @@[Chat] Morty: "3 of us leaving apk"
[09:35:23] @@[Party] Aspcor: "alright dridd....who haven't you killed"
[09:35:29] You bow to Khell.
[09:35:31] Khell bows to you.
[09:35:31] You are now hidden!
[09:35:35] Shanara was just killed by Sedy!
[09:35:36] Meandorr was just killed by Maxximo!
[09:35:42] @@[Party] Dridd: "ism challenf visana"
[09:36:13] No monster target in range.
[09:36:13] No monster target in range.
[09:36:13] No monster target in range.
[09:36:14] No monster target in range.
[09:36:14] No monster target in range.
[09:36:14] No monster target in range.
[09:36:15] No monster target in range.
[09:36:15] No monster target in range.
[09:36:16] You auto-stick Norseman.
[09:36:16] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:16] You are no longer hidden!
[09:36:16] You are hit for 105 damage.
[09:36:16] Your Strength has decreased.
[09:36:16] Your Constitution has decreased.
[09:36:16] Your hits have decreased.
[09:36:16] You feel weaker!
[09:36:16] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:16] You are hit for 38 damage.
[09:36:16] You resist the effect!
[09:36:17] You enter combat mode and target [Khell]
[09:36:17] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[09:36:17] Khell is not in view!
[09:36:18] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 54 (-30) damage!
[09:36:18] Khell's armor becomes too hot to touch.
[09:36:18] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:18] You hit Khell for 51 damage!
[09:36:18] Khell does 7 extra damage to you!
[09:36:18] You are hit for 7 damage.
[09:36:18] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[09:36:19] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:19] You are hit for 83 damage.
[09:36:19] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:19] You are hit for 43 damage.
[09:36:19] Khell is not in view!
[09:36:19] You attempt to use the Azure Eviscerator.
[09:36:19] You sheathe the guarded rapier from your right hand.
[09:36:19] Your Thrust skill has decreased.
[09:36:19] Your Cold resistance has decreased.
[09:36:19] Your Spirit resistance has decreased.
[09:36:19] Your Energy resistance has decreased.
[09:36:19] You wield the Azure Eviscerator in your right hand.
[09:36:19] Your Thrust skill has increased.
[09:36:20] You enter combat mode and target [Khell]
[09:36:20] You prepare to perform a Garrote!
[09:36:20] Khell evades your attack!
[09:36:20] You prepare to perform a Garrote!
[09:36:21] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:21] You are hit for 78 damage.
[09:36:21] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:21] You are hit for 41 damage.
[09:36:21] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:21] You hit Khell for 56 damage!
[09:36:22] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+51)
[09:36:22] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 98 (-55) damage!
[09:36:22] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[09:36:22] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:22] You hit Khell for 50 damage!
[09:36:22] Khell does 9 extra damage to you!
[09:36:22] You are hit for 9 damage.
[09:36:22] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:22] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:36:24] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:24] You are hit for 124 damage.
[09:36:24] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:24] You are hit for 43 damage.
[09:36:24] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+49)
[09:36:24] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 100 (-56) damage!
[09:36:24] Khell does 11 extra damage to you!
[09:36:24] You are hit for 11 damage.
[09:36:25] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:25] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:36:26] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:26] Khell misses!
[09:36:26] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:26] You are hit for 54 damage.
[09:36:26] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:26] You hit Khell for 52 damage!
[09:36:26] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+54)
[09:36:26] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 102 (-58) damage!
[09:36:26] You critical hit for an additional 25 damage!
[09:36:26] Khell's armor becomes too hot to touch.
[09:36:26] Khell does 10 extra damage to you!
[09:36:26] You are hit for 10 damage.
[09:36:26] Khell evades your attack!
[09:36:26] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[09:36:27] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:27] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:36:28] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+57)
[09:36:28] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 109 (-61) damage!
[09:36:28] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[09:36:28] Khell does 8 extra damage to you!
[09:36:28] You are hit for 8 damage.
[09:36:28] You cast a Purge Spell!
[09:36:28] Your strength returns.
[09:36:28] Your Strength has increased.
[09:36:28] Your Constitution has increased.
[09:36:28] Your hits have increased.
[09:36:28] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:28] You are hit for 104 damage.
[09:36:28] You resist the effect!
[09:36:28] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:28] You are hit for 55 damage.
[09:36:28] A crystal shield covers you.
[09:36:28] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:28] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:36:29] Kalkir was just killed by Julari!
[09:36:30] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+66)
[09:36:30] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 125 (-70) damage!
[09:36:30] You critical hit for an additional 16 damage!
[09:36:30] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[09:36:30] Khell does 12 extra damage to you!
[09:36:30] You are hit for 12 damage.
[09:36:30] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:30] You hit Khell for 55 damage!
[09:36:30] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:30] Your melee buffer absorbs 79 damage!
[09:36:30] You are hit for 80 damage.
[09:36:30] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:30] Your melee buffer absorbs 21 damage and dissipates!
[09:36:30] You are hit for 26 damage.
[09:36:30] A crystal shield covers you.
[09:36:31] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:31] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:36:32] Khell evades your attack!
[09:36:32] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 75 (-42) damage!
[09:36:32] You critical hit for an additional 10 damage!
[09:36:32] Khell's armor becomes too hot to touch.
[09:36:32] Khell does 8 extra damage to you!
[09:36:32] You are hit for 8 damage.
[09:36:33] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:33] Your melee buffer absorbs 80 damage!
[09:36:33] You are hit for 80 damage.
[09:36:33] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:33] Your melee buffer absorbs 20 damage and dissipates!
[09:36:33] You are hit for 29 damage.
[09:36:33] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:36:34] You are too fatigued to perform the Garrote style!
[09:36:34] You fail to execute your Dragonfang perfectly.
[09:36:34] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 84 (-47) damage!
[09:36:34] Khell does 10 extra damage to you!
[09:36:34] You are hit for 10 damage.
[09:36:34] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 81 (-46) damage!
[09:36:34] Khell does 7 extra damage to you!
[09:36:34] You are hit for 7 damage.
[09:36:34] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:34] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[09:36:35] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:35] You are hit for 194 damage.
[09:36:35] An acidic cloud surrounds you!
[09:36:35] You are hit for 51 damage.
[09:36:35] You heal yourself for 141 hit points.
[09:36:35] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:35] You evade Khell's attack!
[09:36:35] You cannot move!
[09:36:38] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:38] You are hit for 145 damage.
[09:36:38] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:36:38] You are hit for 48 damage.
[09:36:38] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:38] You hit Khell for 50 damage!
[09:36:38] You are no longer auto-following your target.
[09:36:39] Rhirek attacks Corem with his sword!
[09:36:39] An acidic cloud surrounds you!
[09:36:39] You are hit for 59 damage.
[09:36:40] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:36:40] You are hit for 185 damage.
[09:36:40] Ismael was just killed by Khell!
[09:36:40] Your strength returns to normal.
[09:36:40] Your Strength has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your health returns to normal.
[09:36:40] Your Constitution has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your hits have decreased.
[09:36:40] Your agility returns to normal.
[09:36:40] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your health returns to normal.
[09:36:40] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your Quickness has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your strength returns to normal.
[09:36:40] Your Strength has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your Constitution has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your hits have decreased.
[09:36:40] Your holy aura wears off.
[09:36:40] Your Energy resistance has decreased.
[09:36:40] Your Body resistance has decreased.
[09:36:40] The acidic mist around you dissipates.
[09:36:40] You have died. Type /release to return to your last bind point.
[09:36:40] You died fighting for your realm and lose no experience!
[09:36:42] Khell is poisoned!
[09:36:45] Khell bows to you.
[09:36:52] Khell's armor returns to normal.
[09:36:56] @@[Party] Ismael: "bah made some mistakes"
[09:37:03] Rhirek was just killed by Corem!
[09:37:10] @@Hasin sends, "an inf today has yet to beat him......sb nerf is killing the class...yeah right"






SECOND FIGHT

Second duel this time the minstrel in my group turns on ablative chant without letting me know since some mids were using PBT in their duels.

[09:41:40] Khell beckons you.
[09:41:51] Shanara was just killed by Camelion!
[09:41:52] You bow to Khell.
[09:41:53] @@[Party] Dridd: "common issy baby you can do it"
[09:41:54] Khell salutes you.
[09:41:55] You are now hidden!
[09:42:09] No monster target in range.
[09:42:11] Norseman is too far away to auto-stick!
[09:42:11] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:11] You are no longer hidden!
[09:42:11] Your melee buffer absorbs 70 damage and dissipates!
[09:42:11] You are hit for 16 damage.
[09:42:11] Your Strength has decreased.
[09:42:11] Your Constitution has decreased.
[09:42:11] Your hits have decreased.
[09:42:11] You feel weaker!
[09:42:11] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:11] You are hit for 49 damage.
[09:42:11] You are poisoned!
[09:42:11] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:11] You heal yourself for 69 hit points.
[09:42:11] You enter combat mode and target [Kanzaar]
[09:42:11] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[09:42:11] You auto-stick Norseman.
[09:42:12] Kanzaar is too far away to attack!
[09:42:12] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[09:42:12] You must be hidden to perform this style!
[09:42:12] You fail to execute your Perforate Artery perfectly.
[09:42:12] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 84 (-47) damage!
[09:42:12] Khell looks weaker!
[09:42:12] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 52 (-29) damage!
[09:42:12] You critical hit for an additional 20 damage!
[09:42:12] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:12] You hit Khell for 49 damage!
[09:42:14] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:14] Your melee buffer absorbs 70 damage and dissipates!
[09:42:14] You are hit for 109 damage.
[09:42:14] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:14] You evade Khell's attack!
[09:42:14] Khell is not in view!
[09:42:14] You prepare to perform a Garrote!
[09:42:15] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+60)
[09:42:15] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 115 (-65) damage!
[09:42:15] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[09:42:15] You are poisoned!
[09:42:15] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:16] You prepare to perform a Achilles Heel!
[09:42:16] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:16] You hit Khell for 55 damage!
[09:42:16] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:16] You are hit for 98 damage.
[09:42:16] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:16] You are hit for 31 damage.
[09:42:17] Khell is not in view!
[09:42:18] You attempt to use the Azure Eviscerator.
[09:42:18] You sheathe the guarded rapier from your right hand.
[09:42:18] Your Thrust skill has decreased.
[09:42:18] Your Cold resistance has decreased.
[09:42:18] Your Spirit resistance has decreased.
[09:42:18] Your Energy resistance has decreased.
[09:42:18] You wield the Azure Eviscerator in your right hand.
[09:42:18] Your Thrust skill has increased.
[09:42:18] You enter combat mode and target [Khell]
[09:42:18] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:18] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:18] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:19] You are hit for 103 damage.
[09:42:19] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:19] You are hit for 36 damage.
[09:42:19] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 69 (-39) damage!
[09:42:19] You are poisoned!
[09:42:19] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:20] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:20] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:20] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:20] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[09:42:20] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+59)
[09:42:20] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 121 (-68) damage!
[09:42:20] You critical hit for an additional 30 damage!
[09:42:20] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:20] You hit Khell for 56 damage!
[09:42:20] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 61 (-34) damage!
[09:42:21] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:21] Your melee buffer absorbs 70 damage and dissipates!
[09:42:21] You are hit for 45 damage.
[09:42:21] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:21] You are hit for 31 damage.
[09:42:21] You heal yourself for 117 hit points.
[09:42:22] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:22] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:22] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+60)
[09:42:22] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 123 (-69) damage!
[09:42:22] Khell evades your attack!
[09:42:23] You are poisoned!
[09:42:23] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:23] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:23] You are hit for 95 damage.
[09:42:23] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:23] Khell misses!
[09:42:24] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:24] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:24] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+55)
[09:42:24] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 113 (-64) damage!
[09:42:24] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:24] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[09:42:26] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:26] Khell misses!
[09:42:26] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:26] Your melee buffer absorbs 54 damage!
[09:42:26] You are hit for 0 damage.
[09:42:26] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:26] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:27] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+63)
[09:42:27] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 128 (-72) damage!
[09:42:27] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 63 (-35) damage!
[09:42:27] Khell's armor becomes too hot to touch.
[09:42:27] Khell does 9 extra damage to you!
[09:42:27] You are hit for 9 damage.
[09:42:27] You are poisoned!
[09:42:27] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:28] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:28] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:28] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:28] Your melee buffer absorbs 16 damage and dissipates!
[09:42:28] You are hit for 76 damage.
[09:42:28] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:28] You evade Khell's attack!
[09:42:28] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+55)
[09:42:28] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 112 (-63) damage!
[09:42:28] You critical hit for an additional 35 damage!
[09:42:28] Khell does 11 extra damage to you!
[09:42:28] You are hit for 11 damage.
[09:42:28] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 54 (-30) damage!
[09:42:28] Khell does 11 extra damage to you!
[09:42:28] You are hit for 11 damage.
[09:42:29] Khell is poisoned!
[09:42:29] You hit Khell for 56 damage!
[09:42:30] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:30] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:30] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+50)
[09:42:30] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 102 (-57) damage!
[09:42:30] Khell does 10 extra damage to you!
[09:42:30] You are hit for 10 damage.
[09:42:30] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[09:42:30] Khell misses!
[09:42:30] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[09:42:30] Khell misses!
[09:42:31] You are poisoned!
[09:42:31] You are hit for 40 damage.
[09:42:31] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[09:42:31] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[09:42:32] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+49)
[09:42:32] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 100 (-56) damage!
[09:42:32] You critical hit for an additional 44 damage!
[09:42:32] You just killed Khell!
[09:42:32] Khell's extra health fades.
[09:42:32] The protection around Khell fades.
[09:42:32] Khell's extra strength fades.
[09:42:32] Khell's armor returns to normal.
[09:42:32] Khell's strength returns.
[09:42:32] Khell just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[09:42:32] You get 358 realm points!
[09:42:32] You get 21 bounty points!
[09:42:32] You get 2,705,802 experience points!
[09:42:52] @@[Party] Ismael: "ok, no ablative chant next time lol"

So I won the second fight, but barely, because I had ablative chant on from the minstrel. Again, heal buff from the cleric.

[09:42:11] You heal yourself for 69 hit points.
[09:42:21] You heal yourself for 117 hit points.



THIRD FIGHT

I die at the end, but Khell dies to my DOT process.


[10:17:20] You bow to Khell.
[10:17:20] Khell bows to you.
[10:17:23] You are now hidden!
[10:17:30] You auto-stick Norseman.
[10:17:31] You enter combat mode and target [Khell]
[10:17:31] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[10:17:31] You are no longer hidden!
[10:17:31] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[10:17:31] You must be hidden to perform this style!
[10:17:31] You fail to execute your Perforate Artery perfectly.
[10:17:31] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 74 (-42) damage!
[10:17:31] Khell looks weaker!
[10:17:33] Khell is not in view!
[10:17:35] You attempt to use the Azure Eviscerator.
[10:17:35] You sheathe the guarded rapier from your right hand.
[10:17:35] Your Thrust skill has decreased.
[10:17:35] Your Cold resistance has decreased.
[10:17:35] Your Spirit resistance has decreased.
[10:17:35] Your Energy resistance has decreased.
[10:17:35] You wield the Azure Eviscerator in your right hand.
[10:17:35] Your Thrust skill has increased.
[10:17:35] Maxximo was just killed by Duquesa!
[10:17:35] You enter combat mode and target [Khell]
[10:17:35] You prepare to perform a Sting!
[10:17:35] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+62)
[10:17:35] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 127 (-72) damage!
[10:17:35] You critical hit for an additional 36 damage!
[10:17:35] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:35] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[10:17:35] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:36] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:36] You are hit for 141 damage.
[10:17:36] Your Strength has decreased.
[10:17:36] Your Constitution has decreased.
[10:17:36] Your hits have decreased.
[10:17:36] You feel weaker!
[10:17:36] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:36] You are hit for 39 damage.
[10:17:36] You feel weaker!
[10:17:37] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:37] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+58)
[10:17:37] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 119 (-67) damage!
[10:17:37] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 57 (-32) damage!
[10:17:37] You critical hit for an additional 16 damage!
[10:17:37] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:37] You hit Khell for 55 damage!
[10:17:39] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:39] You are hit for 176 damage.
[10:17:39] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:39] You are hit for 31 damage.
[10:17:39] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:39] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:39] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+52)
[10:17:39] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 99 (-56) damage!
[10:17:39] You attack Khell with your sword and hit for 70 (-40) damage!
[10:17:39] You critical hit for an additional 9 damage!
[10:17:39] Khell begins moving more slowly!
[10:17:41] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:41] You are now preparing to perform a Achilles Heel style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:41] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:41] You are hit for 138 damage.
[10:17:41] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:41] You are hit for 35 damage.
[10:17:41] You perform your Achilles Heel perfectly. (+69)
[10:17:41] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 107 (-60) damage!
[10:17:41] You critical hit for an additional 23 damage!
[10:17:41] Khell cannot seem to move!
[10:17:41] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:41] You hit Khell for 51 damage!
[10:17:43] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:43] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:43] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:43] Khell misses!
[10:17:43] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:43] You are hit for 39 damage.
[10:17:43] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+49)
[10:17:43] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 100 (-56) damage!
[10:17:45] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:45] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:45] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:45] You hit Khell for 49 damage!
[10:17:45] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+58)
[10:17:45] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 118 (-66) damage!
[10:17:45] Khell evades your attack!
[10:17:46] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:46] You are hit for 120 damage.
[10:17:46] You are poisoned!
[10:17:46] You are hit for 40 damage.
[10:17:46] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:46] Khell misses!
[10:17:47] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:47] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:47] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+53)
[10:17:47] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 108 (-61) damage!
[10:17:47] Khell evades your attack!
[10:17:49] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:49] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:49] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:49] You are hit for 97 damage.
[10:17:49] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:49] Khell misses!
[10:17:49] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:49] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[10:17:49] You perform your Sting perfectly. (+54)
[10:17:49] You attack Khell with your stiletto and hit for 110 (-62) damage!
[10:17:49] You critical hit for an additional 15 damage!
[10:17:49] Khell evades your attack!
[10:17:50] @@[Party] Kalen: "aye shankara could i get one as well?"
[10:17:50] You are poisoned!
[10:17:50] You are hit for 40 damage.
[10:17:50] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:50] You are now preparing to perform a Sting style as a backup for Dragonfang!
[10:17:51] Khell evades your attack!
[10:17:52] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:52] You are hit for 172 damage.
[10:17:52] A crystal shield covers you.
[10:17:52] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:52] Your melee buffer absorbs 15 damage!
[10:17:52] You are hit for 15 damage.
[10:17:53] You prepare to perform a Dragonfang!
[10:17:53] You are too fatigued to perform the Sting style!
[10:17:53] Hynna was just killed by Gargol!
[10:17:53] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:53] You hit Khell for 53 damage!
[10:17:53] Khell evades your attack!
[10:17:54] You are poisoned!
[10:17:54] You are hit for 40 damage.
[10:17:54] You are no longer auto-following your target.
[10:17:55] You auto-stick Norseman.
[10:17:55] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:55] Your melee buffer absorbs 67 damage!
[10:17:55] You are hit for 67 damage.
[10:17:55] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:55] Your melee buffer absorbs 15 damage!
[10:17:55] You are hit for 16 damage.
[10:17:55] You cannot move!
[10:17:56] @@[Chat] Hamirr: "great!"
[10:17:58] Khell is poisoned!
[10:17:58] You hit Khell for 51 damage!
[10:17:58] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:17:58] Your melee buffer absorbs 3 damage and dissipates!
[10:17:58] You are hit for 157 damage.
[10:17:58] Khell attacks you with his axe!
[10:17:58] You are hit for 38 damage.
[10:17:58] Khell is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[10:17:58] You hit Khell for 54 damage!
[10:17:58] You are poisoned!
[10:17:58] You are hit for 40 damage.
[10:18:01] Khell attacks you with his sword!
[10:18:01] You are hit for 152 damage.
[10:18:01] Ismael was just killed by Khell!
[10:18:01] Your holy aura wears off.
[10:18:01] Your health returns to normal.
[10:18:01] Your Constitution has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your hits have decreased.
[10:18:01] Your agility returns to normal.
[10:18:01] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your health returns to normal.
[10:18:01] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your Quickness has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your strength returns to normal.
[10:18:01] Your Strength has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your Constitution has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your hits have decreased.
[10:18:01] Your strength returns to normal.
[10:18:01] You are encumbered and move more slowly.
[10:18:01] Your Strength has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your strength returns.
[10:18:01] Your Strength has increased.
[10:18:01] Your Constitution has increased.
[10:18:01] Your hits have increased.
[10:18:01] Your Body resistance has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your Spirit resistance has decreased.
[10:18:01] Your Energy resistance has decreased.
[10:18:01] You have died. Type /release to return to your last bind point.
[10:18:01] You died fighting for your realm and lose no experience!
[10:18:02] Khell is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[10:18:02] Khell's extra strength fades.
[10:18:02] The protection around Khell fades.
[10:18:02] Khell's extra health fades.
[10:18:02] The acidic mist around Khell dissipates.
[10:18:02] Khell's strength returns.
[10:18:02] Khell just died. His corpse lies on the ground.



EDIT: There were 2 other duels I had with Khell but I won't put logs of those here. To put it simple, one of those fights, another mid came near to watch so I had targetted the other mid instead of Khell, for 3-4 seconds, missing my chance to swing at Khell, which may have caused me to lose.

Another fight involved a scout approaching thinking we were fighting and not dueling because we were on the edge of the dueling area setup, causing the scout not to be able to see the other participants. The scout shot an arrow at Khell and did 400+ damage. I ended up winning that duel.

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 1:55pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Left axe needed a nerf but 40% damage reduction was way too much AND at the same time nerf end regen is even more kembo-nerf.

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 2:02pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe. - Date Edited: 6/7/03 2:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Ismaelec
>>> "Left axe needed a nerf but 40% damage reduction was way too much AND at the same time nerf end regen is even more kembo-nerf." <<<

The end regen nerf was fine :P What should have been done was the end regen should have been based on power or a seperate conc, instead of the conc used to do regular buffing. That's the only unfair change I saw.

The LA nerf, or fix, or however you want to call it, is debatable.

However, having said all that, I do believe SBs need a better RA and a single reactionary stun on the sword line.


EDIT: Thread to post with Khell of the logs above.

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=51486067&replies=2

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 2:13pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe. - Date Edited: 6/7/03 2:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: zeratulxx
I highly feel the la nerf was taken over board. It not only killed diversity among sb's it killed the class as a whole. Infiltrators can spec to be what is called the mercifiltrator, it mostly focuses on straight melee damage rather than crit strike chain attacks. They are specced 50 dual wield 50 thrust 33- 35 stealth 23+ env and 21+ crit strike. This is a DIVERSE infiltrator template, yet shadowblades dont get to be diverse also. They do just as much damage as shadow zerkers, yet mythic allows them to exist. I have no reason to lie, I have nothing to gain, Im just gonna be honest. LA was not over powered, what made LA overpowered was the fact that mythic allowed buffbots to be used increased the damage done by left axe users a tremendous amount. I didnt get a second account until 6/7/03, which I am now leveling a shaman buffbot to just be able to compete with enemy assassins. I feel bad that after mythic has nerfed the sb class into oblivion I am now supporting them two fold. I have never hit for those insane amounts of damage that people proclaim LA to do even when I was buffed while in a RvR grp. I always solo in rvr unless its big event or a relic raid. LA was the only means for me to survive due to the fact I had no buffs and alot of the enemy assassin population did. Simply put this la nerf has left the shadowblade with only one option to spec and that is what is known as a crit blade. Critblades use 2h weaponry to perform high damage crit attacks, but due to the slow nature of the 2handed weaponry it puts us at a huge disadvantage against enemy assassins due to the fact that they dual wield and attack faster and that 2h weaponry is known to be evaded more.

If mythic was to remove the dual wield penalty we have, then the left axe nerf would not have been so bad. Nightshades and infiltrators dont get a dual wield penalty for dual wielding yet shadowblades do. If the la nerf is going to remain as is,I for one would rather have the dual wield penalty lifted at the expense of using 2h weaponry. Shadowblades also receive the worst realm abilities amongst the three assassins of the realm. Nightshades get nice ra's such as wild arcana, viper , and avoid pain. Infiltrators get vanish which if used correctly can perform the PA chain TWICE. And shadowblades we get...................... shadowrun. A realm ability that cost 14 realm skill points that makes us move and walking speed while stealthed. Why even bother getting this realm ability when one can get mastery of stealth which is a passive ra that grants a 3-5% increase in movement while stealthed.(I cant remember which it is at the moment). While I feel that each realm should have diversity amongst the three why is it that we get the short end of the stick. I do not want to share the same ra's as infils and nightshades, I would like shadow run replaced with something better. Since we ARE called shadowblades, why not give us a ra that can be used to make our actual shadow into a copy of the character that can attack along side us, it would do up to 25-40% of our actual damamge. Or hell it doesnt even have to do damage, it can just be used as a decoy that performs the exact actions that the player does. It could be used to confuse the enemy. Also why is it that shadowblades only get to spec in one damage type while the other enemy assassins get to spec in two types of damage. Infils get thrust and nightshades get piercing, both which are based upon dex/str, Dex being the primary stat of the assassin class. Shadowblades have always had one damage type to spec in which is based on str which is not our primary stat it is our third. Secondly why is it that infls and nightshades both get stun's which is based off evades while our stun is based of a chain attack which is dependent on a evade. Dragonfang which gives a whopping 9 second stun at 50 thrust spec is what a 50 spec style should be like, Diamondback is a 5-6 second stun based of evade which comes at 25 pierce spec for nightshades and is a very very VERY powerful tool for them. But us shadowblades are left with the comeback/frostgaze chain that hardly ever goes off.

I would like the game to be balanced and be played in a fair environment. Buffbots make the playing field uneven for everyone, putting some at a advantage against others. Nerfs are not the way to go to reach game balance as nerfs just ruin classes and kill the player base. People who put alot of time and effort in to a class only to have it made unplayable because you are being forced to spec one way while others who are in the same jenre as you get to be diversed is unfair. Mythic has a very good game giong for them and I hope they will stop with nerfs cause they just turn customers away and move on to other games.

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 3:06pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
I have a level 50 norse Shadowblade, soulblade spec, (34 cs, 44 la/axe, 36 stealth) on the Andred server.

With all mid jewelry, the only thing that sets me apart from any other Shadowblade is the fact that my armor is Hibernian leather (with the exception of a Mid helm), which is resistant to slash.

I have MP armor (all pieces) with +5 OC SC, every piece alch'd, and both of my weapons are MP the same way.

I have max stats, max resists, max skills. My RA's include all passives, MoP 3, DR 3, Dodger 2.

Before 1.62 I had absolutley no problems with ANY character still epic armor one on one without buffs. For a character to give me hell, or a good run for my time, they had to be with either buffs or equally suited in full MP/SC gear.

I have been dueling a lot since 1.62 was patched. I have been trying to find a way to play my class viably, because quite frankly, I see no reason why I should have to be forced into a respec.

I have been killed more times in the past few days one on one by people in epic armor, than I have come anywhere near close to winning.

My record is roughly around 1 in 4 fights. Now granted this is 99% against fellow assassins, infs and ns's (I still kill SBs quite regularly).

Shadowblades by nature are supposed to be a stronger class melee. Its by design. They have slash vuln armor, one damage type, and have the ability to use 2h (which is a joke btw). We are by far now the weakest of all stealth classes.

I personally feel that Shadowblades were the only complete class.

Instead of making LA useless, why not improve the effectiveness of DW and CD?

We already have a disadvantage with not having enough points in LA, it hurts our overall damage forcing us to use slow poke 2h.

Anyways I can go on all day about why this patch destroyed most of a class (the only ones not effected were the critblades), but I won't. I am sure someone else already has it covered.

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 3:23pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Anyone who understands how LA works knows that for berserkers at least LA>CD/DW. For SB's it's possible that LA<CD/DW since it does less base damage at lower spec than CD/DW.

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 3:28pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe. - Date Edited: 6/7/03 3:38pm (1 edits total) Edited By: FulgoreStylee
"Play to your strengths then. Use a 2h to perf, then switch to two weapons. I did this with my shadowblade before i deleted her(level 50, RR4L9) and had no problems.

Anyway, in answer to the topic, I think that shadowblades need a little bump. The nerf was good against zerks, because they can still do decent damage. They were always able to spec 44+ weapons and still be viable in rvr. Most shadowblades have had to spec their weapons low in order to be complete. "

with 44 LA, as of right now, I PA harder using 2 1H weapons than with a 2H.

also, i tested damage vs a guy in the same armor/same resists (epic with 10 slash, we took off most of our jewels)

his spec - 34 cs/44 sword/20 la
my spec - 34 cs/40 axe/44 la

he has 40~ more weaponskill with me and his 1H is .1 slower
tell me why my PA still outdamages his? because the more LA you have, the less your styles will be penalized. even when sitting and capping out, i STILL outdamaged him. both of us with 34+12 cs. explain that anyone?

My PA on him standing - 430 + 70 left
his PA on me standing - 410 + 57 i believe
my 2H PA was around 470ish

for you non-believers, ill get some logs brb

edit: so.. give me one reason why i should swing 2 seconds slower for less damage? or if i had a 6.2 weapon, maybe i'd do more damage, but before i even got off CD <which fails more often than not due to blocks etc> i would have been styled on 2x by another assassin

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 3:33pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Assassin balance was pretty close before the patch except lower rank nighshades were pretty gimp until they matured and got some good equipment mixed with some good ra's (way to try to balance through Ra's mythic).

Alot of shadowblades would have been fine with a 5-10% nerf, but this seems to be an attempt to gut the class for 6 months/a year or so (see archers).

A one line respec does not cut it at all - that is a joke. What about people how had duelist reflexes? No RA respec?

I was able to make a solid specced critical blade on pen. I found my average perf to be in the 300-400 range with a big slow 2h weapon - yes occasionally you do get a huge hit but it is not often. Other melee classes eat up a 2h shadowblade. It is like being a hunter with better evade, worse armor, no pet, and poison.

I hope this will get fixed - as it is now I can't see shadowblades having much of a shot against hybrid classes and having lots of problems in melee with archers. If Mythic's vision for asassins is for them to rely solely on critical strikes, they have some nerfing to do of nightshades and infiltrators and some beefing up to do of the critical strike line. I'd rather they had just toned down left axe a little bit and left the other realms assassins where they were, instead of wrecking shadowblades and opening all kinds of nerf cries for the other assassins.


I now have new respect for all the other classes that mythic has 'fixed' in the past. It's hard to justify paying money like this when they casually make major changes a character you have been working on for months and months - Over and over to numerous classes. I'm all for balanced play but Mythic should not be making such major changes this far past release. If anything they should have listened to team leads and beefed up the other classes that needed it...

...instead they broke yet another class with new rounds of nerfs that in 6 months to a year they'll maybe get around to fixing. I doubt i'll be around long enough to be here when it happens.


 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 3:43pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Oh btw Ismaelec interesting logs - I won't complain about doing 150-200 damage a swing but I've not really seen numbers like that and they aren't really reflecting some of the logs I'm seeing either. I'm curious as to what the shadowblade's spec and ra's now since he seems to be doing pretty well...

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 4:29pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
to mythic:


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Date Posted: 6/7/03 5:00pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
>>" I'm curious as to what the shadowblade's spec and ra's now since he seems to be doing pretty well... " <<<


Khell responds in this thread, but gives limited detail:

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=51486067&replies=2


You might wanna ask him directly.

There's another SB (Khyro) on my server that hits hard as a truck and this is HIS logs. He's ofcourse not using LA styles, but Garrote/AH. He only has 16+13 LA.

We caught each other in front of APK, and we're as usual, buffed to the teeth. This time I had buffs from my own buff bot who has 50 enhance and Mastery of Arcane 4.

This is his stats... Khyro says:


Khyro Stats:

44 +16 Sword
44 +16 Critical Strike
35 +16 Stealth
31 +16 Envenom
16 +13 Left Axe

Buffed:

322 Strength
322 Constitution
328 Dexterity
192 Quickness
1430 WeaponSkill
2173 Hitpoints

RAs:

Aug Dex 2, Aug Quick 2, Aug Con 2, MoPain 3, MoStealth 2, Toughness 3, Purge, AoM 1, DR 1.

Every Resist Maxed. 29% Slash resist after racial bonus.

MP 102af Leather
MP 16.2/4.1 Bastard Sword
MP 15.0/2.4 Hand Axe
MP 16.5/3.0 Dwarven Short Short (used only once)
MP 16.2/5.4 Great Sword (used once).




Khyro's logs and his response in the thread:


Ok so here is a log I just got today from me vs Ismael near apk in emain. Not a planned duel, just happened to have chat enabled:

[19:01:03] You enter combat mode and target [Ismael]
[19:01:03] You prepare to perform a Perforate Artery!
[19:01:03] Ismael is not in view!
[19:01:03] You are no longer hidden!
[19:01:03] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:03] You are hit for 98 damage.
[19:01:03] Your Strength has decreased.
[19:01:03] Your Constitution has decreased.
[19:01:03] Your hits have decreased.
[19:01:03] You feel weaker!
[19:01:03] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:03] You are hit for 78 damage.
[19:01:03] You are poisoned!
[19:01:03] You are hit for 48 damage.
[19:01:03] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 55 (-21) damage!
[19:01:03] Ismael looks weaker!
[19:01:03] Ismael evades your attack!
[19:01:04] You are no longer auto-following your target.
[19:01:04] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:04] You evade Ismael's attack!
[19:01:04] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:04] You evade Ismael's attack!
[19:01:05] You prepare to perform a Polar Rift!
[19:01:06] Ismael evades your attack!
[19:01:06] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 26 (-10) damage!
[19:01:06] Ismael is poisoned!
[19:01:06] You hit Ismael for 51 damage!
[19:01:07] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:07] You are hit for 111 damage.
[19:01:07] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:07] Ismael misses!
[19:01:07] You cannot move!
[19:01:07] You are poisoned!
[19:01:07] You are hit for 48 damage.
[19:01:07] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:07] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:08] You auto-stick Saracen.
[19:01:08] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:08] You are hit for 111 damage.
[19:01:09] You auto-stick Saracen.
[19:01:09] You auto-stick Saracen.
[19:01:09] You are no longer auto-following your target.
[19:01:10] You cast a Purge Spell!
[19:01:10] Your strength returns.
[19:01:10] Your Strength has increased.
[19:01:10] Your Constitution has increased.
[19:01:10] Your hits have increased.
[19:01:10] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+106)
[19:01:10] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 165 (-64) damage!
[19:01:10] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 30 (-12) damage!
[19:01:10] Ismael begins moving more slowly!
[19:01:10] Ismael is poisoned!
[19:01:10] You hit Ismael for 51 damage!
[19:01:10] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:10] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:10] You auto-stick Saracen.
[19:01:11] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:11] You are hit for 140 damage.
[19:01:11] You are poisoned!
[19:01:11] You are hit for 56 damage.
[19:01:11] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:11] You are hit for 59 damage.
[19:01:11] Ismael casts a spell!
[19:01:11] Ismael's strength returns.
[19:01:12] You have already selected your styles for this round!
[19:01:12] You have already selected your styles for this round!
[19:01:12] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+120)
[19:01:12] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 185 (-72) damage!
[19:01:12] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 34 (-13) damage!
[19:01:12] You critical hit for an additional 8 damage!
[19:01:12] Ismael begins moving more slowly!
[19:01:12] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:12] You evade Ismael's attack!
[19:01:13] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:13] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:13] You have already selected your styles for this round!
[19:01:14] You perform your Hamstring perfectly. (+158)
[19:01:14] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 200 (-78) damage!
[19:01:14] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 39 (-15) damage!
[19:01:14] A crystal shield covers Ismael's skin.
[19:01:14] Ismael is bleeding!
[19:01:14] You hit Ismael for 3 damage!
[19:01:14] You are poisoned!
[19:01:14] You are hit for 49 damage.
[19:01:14] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:14] You are hit for 130 damage.
[19:01:16] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:16] You are now preparing to perform a Leaper style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:17] You perform your Leaper perfectly. (+215)
[19:01:17] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 257 (-100) damage!
[19:01:17] A barrier absorbs 100 damage of your attack!
[19:01:17] Ismael is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[19:01:17] You hit Ismael for 51 damage!
[19:01:17] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 27 (-10) damage!
[19:01:17] Ismael is bleeding!
[19:01:17] You hit Ismael for 5 damage!
[19:01:17] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:17] You are hit for 120 damage.
[19:01:17] A crystal shield covers you.
[19:01:17] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:17] Your melee buffer absorbs 46 damage!
[19:01:17] You are hit for 46 damage.
[19:01:19] You are poisoned!
[19:01:19] You are hit for 53 damage.
[19:01:19] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:19] Your melee buffer absorbs 54 damage and dissipates!
[19:01:19] You are hit for 79 damage.
[19:01:19] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:19] You evade Ismael's attack!
[19:01:19] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:19] You are now preparing to perform a Rib Separation style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:19] You perform your Rib Separation perfectly. (+164)
[19:01:19] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 197 (-77) damage!
[19:01:19] You critical hit for an additional 88 damage!
[19:01:19] You attack Ismael with your axe and hit for 38 (-15) damage!
[19:01:19] Ismael begins moving more slowly!
[19:01:20] @@Sundarl sends, "I hit a hampster with it in the bg and he fumbled 4 times in a row "
[19:01:20] Ismael attacks you with his stiletto!
[19:01:20] You are hit for 132 damage.
[19:01:20] Ismael attacks you with his sword!
[19:01:20] Ismael misses!
[19:01:21] Ismael is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[19:01:21] You hit Ismael for 57 damage!
[19:01:21] You prepare to perform a Hamstring!
[19:01:21] You are now preparing to perform a Garrote style as a backup for Hamstring!
[19:01:22] You perform your Garrote perfectly. (+105)
[19:01:22] You attack Ismael with your sword and hit for 164 (-64) damage!
[19:01:22] You just killed Ismael!
[19:01:22] Ismael's extra strength fades.
[19:01:22] Ismael's extra strength fades.
[19:01:22] Ismael's enhanced agility fades.
[19:01:22] Ismael's enhanced vigor fades.
[19:01:22] Ismael's enhanced vigor fades.
[19:01:22] Ismael's calmness leaves.
[19:01:22] The acidic mist around Ismael dissipates.
[19:01:22] Ismael just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[19:01:22] You get 953 realm points!
[19:01:22] You earn 9 extra realm points!
[19:01:22] You get 83 bounty points!
[19:01:22] You get 41,943,040 experience points!



I thought I had a log from a fight me and Kienon had outside mpk where he used all his ra's and I had a decent run of hamstring/leaper chains. I died with him at about 5%, his viper is what did me in. I scrolled up and was getting hit for 130 lifebane and 92 acidic cloud. That hurts.

oh and btw, I have Aug Con 2 and Toughness 3. And 10 into con at creation, my bot has MoArcane 3. Why I have 2173hps.





This can be found at:

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?
topic=51404203&page=4


Kienon is a RR6 or around RR6 slash-spec NS whom he's referring about, who's superbuffed just like the rest of us big boys.

 

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Date Posted: 6/7/03 5:04pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
Dear Mythic,

Thanks so much for gutting my sb. My spec is all screwed up thanks to your generous single line respec. My gear is entirely obsolete as it was sc'ed for a different skill set and my damage output is lower than anyone else I know.

Gee thanks.

Sunday.

 
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Date Posted: 6/7/03 5:21pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe. - Date Edited: 6/7/03 5:46pm (2 edits total) Edited By: {old}thecoppertop
Love these logs by nightshades and infs showing that there damage output is about the same as a shadowblades now. Of course what these people seem to leave out is their RA's. Now that the damage output between shadowblades and the other 2 assassins is at an equal level the mythic dev team must make the Realmskills on the same level.

At this point the advantage shadowblades have over the other 2 assassin classes is minimal. We have around 40-77 htps over the other 2 classes and the opportunity to chose a race with 10 higher con then a brit and 30 more then a luri or elf. We also have the ability to use 2 handed weapons... but this really isn't an advantage at all, they are too slow and have less imbue points. The damage output overtime is also much lower, and the evade pentalties suffered when fighting other assassins is too high. Aside from a its worth of htps and the ability to use 2hed weapons we have left axe... or should I say had. We still have the ability to take advantage of the left axe haste factor.... ie the average speed of the 2 weapons you wield becomes your swinging speed, but the styles and damage output are now dead.
Ok so what do infs have over us?

- Better armor

- The ability to get an extra specced AF buff from their cleric buffbots.

- When speccing thrust a 9 sec stun at lvl 50, when specced for slash a deadly chain, esspecially against shadowblades who are weak vs slash, amy and diamond. The damamge from this combo usually goes above 230 on my shadowblade who is norse, always buffed with MP armor and weapons and maxxed stats.

- Higher weaponskill, ie less evades for your opponent.

- Vanish gives the ability to stealth, PA twice! Put that in a log guys. True it's every 30 mins, but that gives you the ability to use it in maybe 1 out of every say 4-5 fights. Most you don't need it for because you dominate most classes in the game anyway.

- Don't need to waste 30+ points speccing for duel weild. Shadowblades must spec LA to the mid 30's to make it useful. Infs get DW they don't need to invest as many points in their duel wield ability meaning they have more points for envenom stealth weaponskill and CS. This holds true for nightshades as well.

- 2.5 spec points - goes really with the higher weaponskill

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Nightshades

- Insta DD's, at the moment shadowblade and nightshade damage output is about equal on average. Add in these instant DD's and you have overkill, not by much really infs do hit harder but they probably make up for more damage overtime with these now over shadowblades, and even if they don't quite make it they are useful despite what NS's say. It's and instant interrupt on a stealther, it can reset stealth timers, interrupt casters, and give a little kick right before IP... it's worth it.

- RA's The best of the 3 assassins.
a. avoid pain - 30% melee absorb every 15 mins! when specced to the third lvl. Yes it's 29 points when you add in the pre req of aug con III, but chances are as an NS having that extra con doesn't hurt any. And yes it's every 15 mins, but again thats maybe 1 out of every 2 fights average you have it. Not bad since it makes you impossible to kill.
b. Viper and wild arcania. Viper doubles dot damage every 30 mins, can deal up to 700 damage after resists. When you add the ability wild arcania which allows dots to crit... you can only imagine how much damage an NS can do without even having to melee. Couple this with avoid pain and an NS can take down an SB with a few melee swings and emotes while the Shadowblade can't do a thing.

- CD see above

- edit: specced haste on druid, primary buffer in hib

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Look right now it doesn't take a genious to see shadowblades have the short end of the stick. Go out and play one in a real RvR situation and you will understand. There are to many variables, such as RA's resists, buffs, and even the time it takes to hit chains and switch between hotbars to take into account with pure numbers. You as devs need to play this game to find a balance. If you were to play it now you would find that the best shadowblades, with perfect reaction times armor buffs resists capped stats, do NOT match the best or even average at this point, infs or Ns's.

It is important to compare the 3 assassin classes, to balance them perfectly because honestly at least in my real world experiance soloing, most fights are with other assassins. Being inferior, not standing a chance as shadowblades don't now makes it impossible to enjoy this game. This is how it is now we were hit too hard by this nerf, it has destroyed the class and will destroy the balance out there.

I have a few possible solutions;

- Bring our damage back up some. Maybe make the nerf only half as devestating. Instead of the 35-45% damage reduction make it 15-20%.

AND

- Give us a NEW better RA. It's very clear shadowblade's "shadowrun" is not even close to being on par with the other assassin classes potential I win buttons.

OR

- Give us worthwhile RA's that we can use to compete.
a. avoid pain (make it cheaper as well since it will be needed to stand a chance out there.)
b. A better unique RA
c. Something new.

OR

Whatever else you can come up with, but somethign that will make the shadowblade class worth playing. Maybe the magic you promised us in the description of the class, we had a powerbar at one time... use it.


EDIT: I also forgot to add one of the most important things. WE NEED A FULL RESPEC PLEASE.

 
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Date Posted: 6/7/03 5:38pm Subject: RE: Official Thread: Left Axe.
The biggest problem with this ridiculous overnerf is that Mythic tailored it to the 5% who are constantly double-buffbotted instead of the 95% who aren't. Those who are still double-buffbotted might still pull off decent damage, but the rest of us have seen our damage levels go from decently high to complete crap. As it stands now, there's absolutely no reason to play a Berserker over a Warrior or even over a Thane anymore. Either of those two classes can outdo the Berserker by a good margin.

Oh, and as for the poster who said that Left Axe still does more damage than CD/DW...WRONG. Compare at even spec and CD/DW winds up doing MORE damage in the same amount of time. Most CD/DW users don't spec particularly high, as they still will do the same amount of per-swing damage, though they'll swing their offhand weapon less often. Left Axe, on the other hand, REQUIRES a high spec level (and a double-spec at that!) in order to do decent per-swing damage. Therefore, when you see slightly higher numbers for Left Axe damage over time, that's due to a higher spec level, not a higher damage-dealing ability.

And for the poor twit who brought up that ridiculous Waterman farce...that document is riddled with errors and remains completely unproven. Waterman didn't provide the logs and other proof he supposedly used in creating that load of nonsense. An unproven theory means nothing. And isn't it funny that, when pressed to show his data, Waterman talked about some mythical NDA that he was under? Sorry, but that's FAR too convenient. That document, until proven to be true, may as well be written on and used as toilet paper.

What's been done to Left Axe is unjustified. The effect of this change is simple - the Berserker class has been gutted of any usefulness at all. All that Berserkers had was damage-dealing power. Now, they have NOTHING. No defense, poor offense, no group-related abilities...why would anyone aside from a masochist bother playing a Berserker anymore?

This pointless overnerf is yet another in an ever-growing string of piss-poor management decisions being made by Mythic. If that's the way the company plans on running any other game they decide to put out, I don't think they'll be welcomed with open arms by the gaming community. Lies and deceit don't engender trust among your customers, Mythic...get it in gear and tell us the TRUTH for once.

 

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