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PoxTheSmall
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Last night, with the regular 14 archers who camp the Crunchy docks, I went over and tried to Nature's Shield their shots, but I got mowed down in a matter of seconds only blocking a tiny fraction.
Did they change the way it works somehow? Does it now block only a small margin of arrows on a frontal arc?
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They made a change a while ago so that shield-tanks couldn't achieve unreal % of blocking. With that they nerfed (accidentally?) our natures shield aswell. It isnt the 100% more that it used to be, more like 50-75% now from my esperience.
I also heared that procs on arrows (like dot procs ect) have a bigger chance on penetrating NS, but I'm not really sure about that.
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I still block a ton of arrows...have noticed a few more get through, but that's more or less me and my timing in getting the shield up. Sometimes kinda fumble it a bit and get hit in a rush.
Also, I didn't think the procs (dot procs) on those bows fired unless the shot actually hit you? Might be wrong there...don't use my bow too much on my ranger, lol.
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Yup - whenever they made the changes to blocking and allowed dots on arrows to land, it has been broken. I asked alot of people about it back then, but everyone said it was fine /shrug .
Sometimes it doesn't block anything, sometimes it blocks most - but it's never anywhere near how it originally worked.
The dots seemed to always land on me, even if I blocked arrows. It also seemed that once a dot landed, arrows also bypassed the shield.
I added this issue to the bug/feature pile that Mythic ignores. Love the VW, but it has been shelved since I made my BM.
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Shuckers then  I used to enjoy pissing off 14 archers and then watching them get rolled by a group that'd come by while they're all visible and futilly dropping arrows into my scythe...though, I suppose the orig form of it was quite a bit overpowering.
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Aye, it's not as reliable as it used to be.
Against some archers I seem to block 95%+ of the arrows; recently frapsed some fights in which I block every single arrow. Against others, though, - especially those using arrows with dot procs - it seems more like 75%. Somehow I seem to block less when multiple archers are on me but that might just be a misperception because the more arrows are fired on me the more will eventually hit (if you get my meaning  ).
The scenario you describe seems odd, though - I've never got mowed down in a matter of _seconds_. But then, I've never had 14 archers on me - might explain that.
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I wasn't around in the old days, but I have had no problem blocking three or four archers at once. Then again, as Bocasen says, I've never tried to keep 14 occupied. On a related note, there is little I find as amusing as blocking those three or four archers and imagining their frustration.
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I definitely remember the "old days" back in the old frontier. Walk out to AMG and 23042384938943 scouts pop, and you block every single shot. The funny part was you could literally stand there for a good minute, and not a single one would STOP trying to shoot you, lol.
Now, it's not as reliable...but I still very rarely get hit once it's up. I suppose the only real damage done to me would be from the dot procs, if they go off now even when you block a shot.
I certainly block far more than 50% of the time, that's for sure.
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Was attacked by several archers on the bridge tower yesterday. I used Nature Shield and still blocked almost every arrow. I stood there for a while and about 90% was blocked.
As for procs on the arrows...the DoT from Fool's bow does penetrate and hit you even if the arrow is blocked. I have tested this many times, and it always is the case. Don't know why it is like that and it might even be a bug, but I don't think it was ever addressed via feedback form.
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It could've been more than 14 archers...a number of them are rr10+. If you're on Caerleon, I urge you to go to the Crunchy east bridge or docks at around 9pm PST...its ugly and worth experiencing at least once.
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procs on bows still go off if you block them =/
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Could it be your position?
NS only works if you are being hit in the front - think it's a 90 degree frontal arch.
I say this because their have been times when arrows have penetrated my NS and I move around a bit and it stops.
I doubt 14 archers would ALL be clumped up together. They were probably spread out and some were hitting you more to one side.
I usually have a high success rate blocking arrows if positioned properly (when I can see my attacker and position myself accordingly). Sure, a couple get through but it's a low amount over a long period of time.
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All 14 of em were on the top of a bridge, with about 2 or 3 roaming infy/minstrels below...and I was at crunchy. I definately had them in the frontal arc, there was no question.
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Before the nerf, I always wanted to make a video of me blocking a zillion scouts, with a "Firbolg Jedi" theme.
In fact, I think that I stopped playing my VW not long after that nerf ... while it wasn't a HUGE nerf in the grand scheme of things, it really did kill a huge piece of "fun factor" for the class.
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I had a few screenshots of me blocking arrows from 20+ scouts in a tower while hibs just sat and watched. Even got zephyred from behind once and I still blocked everything while riding until I got off and went back 
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