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Date Posted: 4/11 6:54pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
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I might have to redo my 1-10 primary qbar on my healing classes sad


why they didn't change grp heal.. although since i don't play anymore might need to get rid of the /target Helzxx-Tristan PR and /target Helzxx-Tristan insta heal macros

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 6:55pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
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how it was explained to me was spread heal was always affected by disease...

not in the manner of a normal heal to the naked eye....but the same no matter what



it was explained that spread heal had a pool of HP.....

the pool of HP was determined mainly by how many people were in the group....

for illustration lets say the lvl 30 spread heal had a pool of 4000 HP for 8 people



when people are damaged in the group the pool is then distributed.....

member 4 damaged for 500

member 6 damaged 1200

member 7 damaged 300



the spread heal has 4000 pool....but the total damage is only 2000....

so when you cast the heal the 2000 hp is healed and the remained 2k goes unused and is lost.....



now...disease affects the pool of the spread heal for each member that is diseased.....

so instead of 500 hp per person in the pool its half that value per diseased person...for a value of 250 per diseased person


so lets say the 3 people listed above were also diseased....

you have 5*500=2500 added to the pool via people not diseased....

then you add 3*250=750 for the people that are diseased.....for a total pool of 3250


the pool is smaller proportionally with the disease effect.....


but since there was only 2000 damage done...even tho diminished overall like a normal heal....it still has plenty of HP to cover the wounded



thats how it was explained by a TL....and he claimed to have tests to prove it....i dont remember who



if i'm mistaken so be it....however thats what i recall.....if so....disease has always affected spread heal even outside the caster being diseased....


i assume the OP is saying its changed from this into a straight 50% reduction on the affected person.....which makes me wonder if spread heal is being reduced twice now




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Well asking the present TL these type questions, is like pissing in the wind.



what you get nailed in the face for being an stupid?

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 7:21pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal? - Date Edited: 4/11 7:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Steot
how it was explained to me was spread heal was always affected by disease...

not in the manner of a normal heal to the naked eye....but the same no matter what



it was explained that spread heal had a pool of HP.....

the pool of HP was determined mainly by how many people were in the group....

for illustration lets say the lvl 30 spread heal had a pool of 4000 HP for 8 people



when people are damaged in the group the pool is then distributed.....

member 4 damaged for 500

member 6 damaged 1200

member 7 damaged 300



the spread heal has 4000 pool....but the total damage is only 2000....

so when you cast the heal the 2000 hp is healed and the remained 2k goes unused and is lost.....



now...disease affects the pool of the spread heal for each member that is diseased.....

so instead of 500 hp per person in the pool its half that value per diseased person...for a value of 250 per diseased person


so lets say the 3 people listed above were also diseased....

you have 5*500=2500 added to the pool via people not diseased....

then you add 3*250=750 for the people that are diseased.....for a total pool of 3250


the pool is smaller proportionally with the disease effect.....


but since there was only 2000 damage done...even tho diminished overall like a normal heal....it still has plenty of HP to cover the wounded



thats how it was explained by a TL....and he claimed to have tests to prove it....i dont remember who



if i'm mistaken so be it....however thats what i recall.....if so....disease has always affected spread heal even outside the caster being diseased....


i assume the OP is saying its changed from this into a straight 50% reduction on the affected person.....which makes me wonder if spread heal is being reduced twice now




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Well asking the present TL these type questions, is like pissing in the wind.


what you get nailed in the face for being an stupid?




Not at all, lets just say she doesnt know the class, dont care, and isnt a good TL. ONly worse TL is the menty one, Good lord.

People may have hated watermelon, but the guy knew his toon, game mechanics, and could answer any ani question with a 5 page report.

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 7:23pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
tell us how you really feel

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:16pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
I love your warm words! hugs

Didn't notice an issue playing tonight with spreadheal, nor did the other healer in group.

I'll bring it up with the TLs and devs. love

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:18pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
Steot posted:
how it was explained to me was spread heal was always affected by disease...

not in the manner of a normal heal to the naked eye....but the same no matter what



it was explained that spread heal had a pool of HP.....

the pool of HP was determined mainly by how many people were in the group....

for illustration lets say the lvl 30 spread heal had a pool of 4000 HP for 8 people



when people are damaged in the group the pool is then distributed.....

member 4 damaged for 500

member 6 damaged 1200

member 7 damaged 300



the spread heal has 4000 pool....but the total damage is only 2000....

so when you cast the heal the 2000 hp is healed and the remained 2k goes unused and is lost.....



now...disease affects the pool of the spread heal for each member that is diseased.....

so instead of 500 hp per person in the pool its half that value per diseased person...for a value of 250 per diseased person


so lets say the 3 people listed above were also diseased....

you have 5*500=2500 added to the pool via people not diseased....

then you add 3*250=750 for the people that are diseased.....for a total pool of 3250


the pool is smaller proportionally with the disease effect.....


but since there was only 2000 damage done...even tho diminished overall like a normal heal....it still has plenty of HP to cover the wounded



thats how it was explained by a TL....and he claimed to have tests to prove it....i dont remember who



if i'm mistaken so be it....however thats what i recall.....if so....disease has always affected spread heal even outside the caster being diseased....


i assume the OP is saying its changed from this into a straight 50% reduction on the affected person.....which makes me wonder if spread heal is being reduced twice now




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Well asking the present TL these type questions, is like pissing in the wind.


what you get nailed in the face for being an stupid?




Not at all, lets just say she doesnt know the class, dont care, and isnt a good TL. ONly worse TL is the menty one, Good lord.

People may have hated watermelon, but the guy knew his toon, game mechanics, and could answer any ani question with a 5 page report.



So if it was in fact changed and EA/Mythic didn't tell ANYONE, how is the TL suppose to know? I do believe she said she was looking into . Are you looking for an answer like RIGHT now or should we give her some time to get that answer? This might come as a shock to you but not everyone plays/uses VN 24/7.

Geesh

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:18pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
'nor did the other healer in group.'

I noticed one problem: mashing spreadheal aimlessly didn't save our group sad

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:19pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
please stop quoting that abortion of a long post, its been repasted like 6 times and i still havent read it

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:23pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
Sorry. It's the drugs :P

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 8:43pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
"Well asking the present TL these type questions, is like pissing in the wind."

which TL ?

 

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Date Posted: 4/11 10:31pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
I use spread when target is out of LoS and diseased, as the healing power is > group heal then.

I used to use it more when I had multipul people hurt. Because if you used a good chunk of the pool it was the most power efficient heal... but nowadays power doesn't matter, so I go with the hp/sec speed of spec group heal. Spread when I need to save some power (this is again talking out of line of sight or with 3+ targets injured)

it's just spreadheal has a bad rep so people just assume you are a bad healer if you use it. My pops big on math and made a whole spreadsheet with hp/sec, total HP healed, hp/pow etc etc and spread heal was one of the better heals if you started using the full pool (even for hp/sec cause of the large chunk it heals for). Only thing is, it's main thing over spec group heal was hp/pow which is not really as important anymore.

 

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Date Posted: 4/12 12:15pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
Rofl @ all the hate. Spread heal has not changed, and it has always been effected by disease on both the caster and the target. It's difficult to see a difference in some instances if only a couple people in the group are taking damage. To be clear, no one's changed spread heal.

 

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Date Posted: 4/12 12:17pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?
Taiker posted:
Rofl @ all the hate. Spread heal has not changed, and it has always been effected by disease on both the caster and the target. It's difficult to see a difference in some instances if only a couple people in the group are taking damage. To be clear, no one's changed spread heal.




Bad. I made a new thread Mark!

 

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Date Posted: 4/12 1:09pm Subject: RE: So why did they change spreadheal?



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One grp i ran with, They actually yelled at me for trying to single target and grpheal. They exlplained to me that spreadheal was my best alternative and i only dont use it becuase i want rps.


I had this point i sat here ith a blank look, and didnt know what to say to them.

 

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