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Date Posted: 6/2/06 8:58am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage.
My paladin is dying on the inside, but I am looking forward to levelling up my VW after I finish the warden. :P

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 10:19am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage.
/quote Corky_aloof You dont really need to work BOS into your template. Just equip it to summon Sun Scythe, then remove it and equip a higher utility belt. /quote

BoS doesn't have the 15 minute post-equip delay?

15 mins is a long time to be down between fights...

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 11:03am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage. - Date Edited: 6/2/06 11:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: sitra2
^^^

It does...but it's a case where you'll only lose it if you die at night. Think there's a time function in game, so you can see when it's getting near to the time to summon the scythe again (think you can summon at 8 AM - 8 PM game time?). Can just wear it for those 15 minutes, then summon, then switch again.

Even if you die at night and have the belt on, still wouldn't be able to resummon the weapon unless you went through the trouble of zoning elsewhere to find daylight. If you die during the day, moot point...you keep the weapon. tongue

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 11:08am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage.
omg i love conflag now ;p
gonna rip up pvp+pve ezmode.

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 11:09am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage.
Yeah the BoS does have the 15min recharge timer. But you only lose the weapon if you die during evening hours. Also you can stock up on summons and vault them as of a recent patch which helps when you die during the night.

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 2:14pm Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage.
Jacina's and AT both have spell pierce and are accessible to VWs, I believe CS has arch magery which has a 5% pierce component on it.

 

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Date Posted: 6/2/06 6:46pm Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage. - Date Edited: 6/2/06 7:21pm (2 edits total) Edited By: sitra2
Still waiting for my live version of my VW to be copied over, but did a little testing tonight with some RA setups using my 6L8 copy that I do have...he's got 50+16 scythe. All proc damage tests were done on my buffbot with 17% energy resists on Pend. Level 50 of course. Fully buffed tests.

With aug str 5 (419 str buffed) as my sole RA, the proc was hitting for 366 consistently.

With aug str 5 and MoM 4 (highest I could go...+11% magic damage), the proc was hitting for 406 consistently.

With MoM 5 (+15% magic damage) and no aug str (371 str), the proc was hitting for 387 consistently.

With MoM 5 and aug str 4 (405 str), the proc was hitting for 411 consistently.

I went and tried the setup I plan on using on Live...aug str 2 and MoM 3 (383 str and +7% magic damage)...the proc was hitting for 368 consistently. So, for 14 points, I got the same basic return (on proc damage alone) as I did from 34 points and aug str 5.

As far as proc damage goes, MoM > Aug Str. A nice mix of both is probably best, but please believe me when I say that if your str is 380+, you will not suffer from a large dropoff in melee damage. You'll have more variance and won't reach your cap as often, but to me, that's hardly a big deal. I think now VW's have to think outside the box and see that our proc damage is where it's at. I don't plan on going any higher than aug str 2 as of now, so I can break the 380 mark (didn't put any strength in at creation oh so many years ago, for whatever reason).

Just got the email (about two hours after I first started testing) that my 7L9 VW is copied over. More RA points AND I have Atlantis Tablet with 5% resist pierce on him, plus he's wearing belt of the sun. I'll get back to you guys with some more tests/damage numbers soon. I activated Jacina's on my VW on live, but I'll have to get it leveled and get back to ya...5% pierce only for now. Hardly scientific or indepth tests, I know...but just to give people a rouugh idea of where their proc damage will be on the usual moderate energy resists most of us will see.

EDIT: Apparently I screwed up somehow, because I tried to port my 7L9 version of my VW, and now I can't log him in...keeps getting stuck, and I have to hit escape and go back to the character screen. Can't get anywhere to do the tests I wanted to try...blah.

 

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Date Posted: 6/3/06 5:57am Subject: RE: Conflagration Damage. - Date Edited: 6/3/06 6:02am (1 edits total) Edited By: sitra2
Did a little more testing now that I can actually log the correct toon in. Same target is my lvl 50 bot with 17% energy resists. Every test is with 5% pierce from Atlantis Tablet however. I used champ scythe which had me at 50+16 scythe (my str was always 6 points higher with champ wep). I also used the sun scythe, which had me at 50+17 scythe and my weaponskill was always one or two points lower than using champ scythe (6 points lower str, but the extra +1 to scythe from RR's make up for it).

Aug str 5 (419 str) using champ scythe, the proc was hitting for 386 consistently. Sun scythe (413 str), the proc was hitting for 384.

Aug str 5 and MoM 5 using champ scythe, the proc was hitting for 444 consistently. Sun scythe, the proc was hitting for 441.

MoM 5 (+15% to magic damage) using champ scythe, proc was hitting for 409 consistently. Sun scythe, the proc was hitting for 407.

Just wanted to see what MoM 5 + Aug Str 5 + debuff would do...the proc debuffed her energy to 0%, and hit for 502 damage.


MoM gives you your biggest bang for your buck, but you probably won't want to ignore aug str...did a few tests at like aug str 2/mom 3, str 3/mom 3, etc...depending on what your RR is what other RA's you feel are must haves, I'd probably lean towards str 3/mom 3. I've had purge 3 for the longest since I solo, but I may drop down to purge 2 so I can up my moparry and mopain a bit, or maybe even add MoM 4...but who knows.

But, I think with Jacina's and AT leveled (working on Jacina's now), BOTH procs should see big damage (BB and Conflag)...even with less than my usual 395 str that I had for ages. Plus, I won't argue with extra Immolation and Lifetap damage.

 

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