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Alvial  7067 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:02pm Subject: VW styles in 1.84
I don't know enough about VW styles to know if this is good or bad, but this is in 1.84c.

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- Scythe Styles have been re-organized in the following manner:

Parry -> Sawgrass -> Thorny Shield
Evade -> Arboreal Fire -> Flaming Scythe
side -> Stunning Blade -> Blizzard Blade
Rear- > Foxfire -> Winter's Scythe
Frontal-> Grasping roots -> Conflagration

- Arboreal Shield is now available at Spec 21 in Scythe.

- Grasping Roots is now available at Spec 34 in Scythe and has a 10 second PBAE Root.

- Conflagration now procs a 150 DD spell.

- Foxfire is now a Rear positional Style.

- Grasping Roots is now a Frontal positional Style.

 

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BlazingIntensity  1517 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:08pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
Already looking forward to having an anytime ichor for kite-casting.

 

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CamaanFrost  25563 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:12pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
he alv, wanna pl some vw'ers?

 

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Alvial  7067 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:13pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
lol sure Cam. I deleted my 36 VW already, hahaha.

 

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CamaanFrost  25563 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:17pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
lol sure Cam. I deleted my 36 VW already, hahaha.

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I'm in the mood to PL a few more toons actually.. I want a bainshee too =p

 

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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:18pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
Good, I guess, except I am REALLY going to miss my rear stun style. sad

 

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Alvial  7067 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:20pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
They didn't change Damaging Grasp as far as I can tell. You'll just have the option of using Foxfire when the target has stun immunity and it will be nice for lower levels. Foxfire should also hit harder I think.

 

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EgoDefluo  209 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:21pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
I'm not sure they're taking it away. I think it's just that its not part of a chain, so they didn't mention it. Unless it was in earlier patch notes that they were taking it away.

 

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Skragbait  1074 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:23pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
I'd say it's good. I resubscribed today! yay

 

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ThrayR  361 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:24pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
Uh, I don't see any changes listed for Damaging Grasp.
So, would this mean it's still a rear-stun?

 

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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:28pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84 - Date Edited: 6/1/06 1:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TheEnigmatik1
I think that's a fairly safe assumption. I just think that the rear positional is to, as a previous poster said, give you an alternative in the event you just want/have to sit someone in the back and they're already stun immune?

Although it begs to question, with the adjustments (and subsequent proc level adjustments) if you side stun someone is it worthwhile to run through the rear chain or swing to the side and use the side one. Hrm...definitely worth some testing when I get home from work. Still WTB Procs levels = Arb spec plz w/ MoF plz!

The 150 DD on Conflag is nice, but annoying in that I think may VWs respecced out of 50 Scythe after last patch cycle (neither of mine were 50 scythe to begin with). But seeing as how they just totally screwed around with the Scythe line, I'm almost positive we'll get respecs again.

 

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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:37pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
Can someone PLEASE confirm that our backstun is still there..... praying

 

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Daricaid  1390 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:43pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
DG still has stun

 

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BlazingIntensity  1517 posts
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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:45pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84 - Date Edited: 6/1/06 1:54pm (1 edits total) Edited By: BlazingIntensity
Grasping roots is low end high damage (took about 2% endo)
CF is still high end/high damage (took about 20% endo) and now delves as energy (thought it was heat before)

GR proc is matter based (good imo)

CF damage is comparable to DG and GR is slightly less (I'd say it does about 90% of a CF/DG hit), my proc on CF was hitting for 286 unbuffed, and tests have shown there is a direct correlation between style procs and WS, meaning with 155 more STR we could easily break 300 and possibly 350 (especially considering i've only got 80 str in template). Unbuffed I broke 700 easily between crits/CF/snakecharmer. The endo useage on CF isn't as prohibitive as the opener (GR instead of AS) uses less endo, at 22% endo per CHAIN plus a ~15% chance to proc snakecharmer, and tireless i'd say you could hit 5 of these pretty easily.

Consequently, with buffs my CF is hitting 395 and BB is hitting 367 (thats at 370 STR).

 

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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:47pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
im so gonna run around with my self haste now,
backstun=2 BB thanks to the 2 style change tongue

 

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Date Posted: 6/1/06 1:47pm Subject: RE: VW styles in 1.84
10sec pbae root:
Is it affected by resists? If not, rock on!
How's the immunity timer on it?

 

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